From n2vip at bellatlantic.net Wed May 31 21:12:24 2000 From: n2vip at bellatlantic.net (Ken Hansen) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 22:12:24 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Heat and the SPARCBook - just a quick note... Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0160_01BFCB4D.4C7C0620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I just wanted to report that my 3GX, sitting on my home network all day, accepting randome terminal sessions from me over the internet (access using DDNS service from tzo.com was a breeze, now I can access a system on my home network that is connected via ASDL line!) *never* broke a sweat! I left it on for 12 hour+, and the bottom is quite cool - just a reference point concerning heat build-up. My 3GX has Solaris 2.6 (non 5/98 relase), all patches & packages listed in the FAQ and I have had *no* problems at all! Things to take away from this note: - May, 1998 relase of Solaris 2.6 does not seem significant, mine was from 1997... - Left on and fairly idle, there is no apprecible heat build up... - tzo.com Dynamic Domain Name Service is a great thing, esp. if coupled with a Linksys Cable/DSL router and DSL service! OK, back to work... Ken ------=_NextPart_000_0160_01BFCB4D.4C7C0620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello all,

I just wanted to = report that my=20 3GX, sitting on my home

network all day, accepting randome = terminal=20 sessions from me

over the internet (access using DDNS = service from=20 tzo.com

was a breeze, now I can access a system = on my home=20 network

that is connected via ASDL line!) = *never* broke a=20 sweat!

I left it on for 12 = hour+, and=20 the bottom is quite cool - just a

reference point concerning heat = build-up. My 3GX=20 has Solaris

2.6 (non 5/98 relase), all patches = & packages=20 listed in the FAQ

and I have had *no* problems at = all!

Things to take away = from this=20 note:

- May, 1998 relase = of Solaris=20 2.6 does not seem significant,

mine was = from=20 1997...

- Left on and fairly = idle, there=20 is no apprecible heat build up...

- tzo.com Dynamic = Domain Name=20 Service is a great thing,

esp. if = coupled with=20 a Linksys Cable/DSL router and DSL service!

OK, back to work...

Ken

------=_NextPart_000_0160_01BFCB4D.4C7C0620-- From arno at panix.com Wed May 31 13:24:38 2000 From: arno at panix.com (arno uhlmelmahei) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 14:24:38 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] keyboard keystroke loss? Message-ID: Sunder wrote: > > Ken Hansen wrote: > > > > I've noticed that I need to pay attention to my keystrokes, but I think that > > my problem may be due to the unusually deep travel (these days) these keys > > have... Folks raised on mushy laptop keyboards are not used to pressing that > > hard on a key... > > No, it is for sure hardware related, as I tend to be hard on keyboards. :) > Also, if I hold down a key and notice that the stroke didn't show it will > eventually show up. It's as if the keyboard scanner doesn't always scan. I have a 3gx that exibits this problem as well. As strange as it sounds if I toggle the numlock key things clear up for a while. Regards, Arno From bobkey at weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu Wed May 31 14:04:45 2000 From: bobkey at weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu (BSD Bob) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] keyboard keystroke loss? Message-ID: > > > > > > I've noticed that I need to pay attention to my keystrokes, but I think that > > > my problem may be due to the unusually deep travel (these days) these keys > > > have... Folks raised on mushy laptop keyboards are not used to pressing that > > > hard on a key... > > > > No, it is for sure hardware related, as I tend to be hard on keyboards. :) > > Also, if I hold down a key and notice that the stroke didn't show it will > > eventually show up. It's as if the keyboard scanner doesn't always scan. > > I have a 3gx that exibits this problem as well. As strange > as it sounds if I toggle the numlock key things clear up for > a while. I have a sparcbook2 that does the same thing. The only recourse is to use the chicklet keyboard only in an emergency, and hook up an external keyboard for serious use. Bob From sunder at sunder.net Wed May 31 15:06:03 2000 From: sunder at sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 16:06:03 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Power Saving Screen Saver and SuspendingSparcbook? Message-ID: neal wise wrote: > > I think it's called dtscreen. There are arguements to call the various > savers. Too bad though... kbats.whaeteveritis has that cool old sun bats > screen saver. Love the bats... > > dtscreen should be in /usr/dt/bin (i'm thinking CDE on AIX though...) I've seen that, but it lacks a power feature. man dtscreen provides modes to select the screen saver in question, but the power saving one isn't there. It is in the CDE styles screen pannel. > > My second question is, how do I add a suspend feature to KDE? Is there > > some command line equivalent that I can tell Solaris to save it's memory > > to a .CPR file and shut down? (i.e. Suspend action from under CDE?) > > You might be able to find the config for CDE somewhere under either > /usr/dt (distributed CDE stuff) or /etc/dt (localizations). > > I'm curious about the 6gb disk option. I've recently imported a 3GS into > australia. I have a 1.2g with an OpenBSD snapshot on it which I'm using > right now :) but I've found a source with 3 540m and 1 340m brand new (I > gues that would actually be unused given the age :) disks. I was thinking > about grabbing one of those sleds to use with one of the IDE<->SCSI > thingies and a bigger, newer disk. I see one complaint about heat with the > big disk and someone else saying they've had no probs. Wht model of disk > is giving you no issues and what would I expect to pay for it and a > converter? I've heard good things from other folks about using other drives, so I'd say stay away from the Toshiba 6.0gb disks and you should be ok. Perhaps an IBM drive would do. Remeber, you'll need the ADTX converter to use bigger drives. You mention you have a 1.2Gb - this means you have a real SCSI disk and lack the ADTX IDE-SCSI bridge, so you'll have to buy that as well. The guys that bought the 6gb ide disk/scsi bridge from www.powerbook1.com had no heat problems, so that's an idea for you. -- ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ From sunder at sunder.net Wed May 31 15:08:21 2000 From: sunder at sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 16:08:21 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCBook Ehternet Cable Message-ID: Michael Thompson wrote: > > I just picked up a SPARCBook 3GX, 128MB, 110MHz. > > Can I use the Ethernet cable from a SS10 on the 3GX? Yup, you should be able to. -- ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ From carton at Ivy.NET Wed May 31 15:14:56 2000 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 14:14:56 -0600 Subject: [SPARCbook] keyboard keystroke loss? Message-ID: On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 08:35:50AM -0400, Matthew Haas wrote: > On Wed, 31 May 2000, Sunder wrote: > > [pressing more than three keys leads to garbage] > > SPARCbook 3GX > NetBSD 1.4.2 > still on my original pointer > > I have never experienced this problem... I also had this problem a lot with Solaris. ^@'s and other weird characters would get shoved in there if I typed too fast. When I switched to NetBSD, weird stuff stopped appearing. I can say for sure that the problem got a lot better under NetBSD, but whether NetBSD is reading information from the keyboard cleanly or merely filtering out all the obviously spurious garbage after it's read, I couldn't tell you. Anyway, as any keyboard designer will tell you, typing fast means you don't release the last key by the time you press the next key. They have to put more wires in the keyboard to deal with this, and eventually, with any keyboard, you'll notice if you hold down like 8 keys at once it stops listening. On my Type 5 it seems to be 3 to 5 keys, depending on which ones. But, when you press keys after the ``saturation point,'' it doesn't generate garbage 8-bit characters and nul's like SPARCbook/Solaris--rather, the keys are _ignored_, like SPARCbook/NetBSD. _Reliably._ As another datapoint, you'll notice the saturation point for a 3x4 touch-tone pad is usually 1 key. -- Miles Nordin / v:+1 720 841-8308 fax:+1 530 579-8680 555 Bryant Street PMB 182 / Palo Alto, CA 94301-1700 / US From Mark at misty.com Wed May 31 15:23:30 2000 From: Mark at misty.com (Mark G. Thomas) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 16:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] keyboard keystroke loss? Message-ID: Hi, > > No, it is for sure hardware related, as I tend to be hard on keyboards. :) > > Also, if I hold down a key and notice that the stroke didn't show it will > > eventually show up. It's as if the keyboard scanner doesn't always scan. > > I have a 3gx that exibits this problem as well. As strange > as it sounds if I toggle the numlock key things clear up for > a while. > > Regards, > Arno I had a 3GX with a failing pointer on the keyboard. When the pointer/mouse failed completely, I then started losing keystrokes on all keys typed. My conclusion was that the failed pointer was generating a lot of hardware interrupts or something similar, and interfering with the keyboard controller processor's ability to reliably register keystrokes. Replacing the keyboard with one with a good pointer/mouse resolved the dropped keystroke problem. That was before the Ross deal, so replacing the keyboard was a $650 operation with Tadpole/RDI..... -Mark -- Mark G. Thomas (Mark at Misty.com -- http://www.misty.com/) From dkl at netcom.com Wed May 31 16:26:35 2000 From: dkl at netcom.com (Douglas K Landau) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 14:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] keyboard keystroke loss? Message-ID: Well then we've got them [kbd problems] of all types, because one of my 3GXs loses keystrokes, more some days than others, sometimes to the point of rendering the machine unusable and sometimes not at all. But, it NEVER does it while in the OBP. In fact, Pause-A never gets lost, even when all other keys have appeared to die sporadically. So it's not hardware. I think that it has to do with the CDE login screen but am not sure. However, there is a common denominator. A failing pointer thingy. dl > Another thing I've noticed about both my Sparcbook 3's (GX and GS) is that > they both lose keystrokes at times. This can be very annoying when you're > trying to type in a password and it misses keystrokes, as no program > (DTlogin, login, ssh) echoes back *'s when you type in a password.) > > I've resorted to turning keyclick on, but it's too loud and annoying... > > > Does anyone else have this problem? Does anyone else NOT have this > problem? > > It doesn't seem to be OS related either, as it seems to happen in the Open > Boot Prom also. > > Both the 3GS and the 3GX have had broken pointers, I've fixed one of them > as per the SparcBook hardware hacking SAQ ( > http://www.sunder.net/sparcbook/index.html ) > From sunder at sunder.net Wed May 31 16:39:06 2000 From: sunder at sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 17:39:06 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] keyboard keystroke loss? Message-ID: "Mark G. Thomas" wrote: > I had a 3GX with a failing pointer on the keyboard. When the pointer/mouse > failed completely, I then started losing keystrokes on all keys typed. My > conclusion was that the failed pointer was generating a lot of hardware > interrupts or something similar, and interfering with the keyboard controller > processor's ability to reliably register keystrokes. > > Replacing the keyboard with one with a good pointer/mouse resolved the > dropped keystroke problem. > > That was before the Ross deal, so replacing the keyboard was a $650 > operation with Tadpole/RDI..... That's what I was looking for - so it is a failed pointer. Yep, makes sense. Thanks much. I'm in search of another keyboard pointer from any thinkpad, but at $75 a pop for a Thinkpad keyboard to perform two hours of hard labor on, yuck... I've got an idea that may prove useful. If you look at the hardware SAQ, I was kicking this idea around in my head for a while. ( http://www.sunder.net/sparcbook/index.html#mouse2 ) I tested the dead pointer (hence the notes on the white/orange pic) and measured it. I believe that the pointer is resistance based, which basically turns it into a super tiny analog joystick. Here's the rub: Playstation controllers have nice (bigger) analog joystick assemblies in them. I was thinking of ripping one out of those and attaching it externally to the side of the Sparcbook, say lower part of the right edge - if I can find the right resistances and way to snake out the pointer cable. The problem is that these are X Y potentiometers. That is one pot handles X, the other handles Y. But, the IBM pointer shares two directions together. That is, left and down share the same common connection, right and down share one line. So my solution, once I get the resistances right is to turn the joystick 45 degrees over... I'll post up pix when I get around to doing it. -- ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ From jeisch at boku.net Wed May 31 21:21:47 2000 From: jeisch at boku.net (Jonathan Eisch) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 21:21:47 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] changing domains/IP-addresses on the fly Message-ID: Locations are kinda slow, and change much more than needs to be changed. Have you noticed what kind of hard disk space they take up too? Considerably more the few bytes use by a couple short scripts. -Jonathan -- jon eisch jeisch at boku.net On Wed, 31 May 2000, Ken Hansen wrote: > I'm curious - why not use the location functionality built-in to > either the Solaris OS or Tadpole tools (assume you are running > Solaris 2.6 on your laptop)? > > I have only just started to use my laptop, but I will need this > form of networking flexability (or I may just go true DHCP for > both home and school...). > > The commands are like lsloc, rmloc, cploc (get the picture?) but > I don't have a copy of the FAQ handy - it lists most of the > commands, if not all. > > Thanks, > > Ken > n2vip at bellatlantic.net > > > > Just looking through my archives, and I found this message. could you > > > send me a copy of your scripts? > > > > > > -Jonathan > > > > Well, yes, i could. But I'm currently in the process of upgrading the > > harddisk, and I only have that stuff on an ufsdump on a CD for now... > > It could take me one or two days to get all that up so I can send it > > to you. In case I don't send it after 2 days, remind me to do so ;-) > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > From lambert at ecst.csuchico.edu Mon May 1 00:02:36 2000 From: lambert at ecst.csuchico.edu (Tyson J. Lambert) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] Does Solaris 8 work on a 3GX? Message-ID: If you have some bandwidth available I could easily upload the iso in question. I'm a little reluctant to drop a copy in the mail though let me know > Baring that, does anyone know how I can get may98 media (I have an > external CD drive)? I looked at SunStore and it wasn't listed :( > My friend that noticed the machine was interesting in buying it. I saw > prices around $600-800 does that sound about right? I've seen them going on ebay for ~ $700 hope this helps -Ty From daemons at cfl.rr.com Mon May 1 10:53:37 2000 From: daemons at cfl.rr.com (daemons) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 10:53:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SPARCbook] Solaris 2.6 with > 8bit color Message-ID: Greetings, I recently loaded the 5/98 release of Solaris 2.6 on a 3GX. I tried thre times to install the NCE packages from tadpole.com but each time they broke the linker and boot loader and rendered the machine totally useless. I tried running the NCE binaries from my other 3GX with 2.5.1 with no avail.. fbconfig would just crash the screen..so how in heck can I get > 8bbp on this thing ? Thanks for your help, -aaron From lambert at ecst.csuchico.edu Mon May 1 13:15:16 2000 From: lambert at ecst.csuchico.edu (Tyson J. Lambert) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] oops Message-ID: The message I sent out earlier reguarding the may98 media wasn't supposed to go to the whole list. Apperently I need to re-learn how to use pine :( The offer still stands, however, assuming that you allready own the neccessary licenses needed to use the may98 release and are just short a disk (as they tend to get lost). -Ty From Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl Mon May 1 14:43:29 2000 From: Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl (Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 21:43:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [SPARCbook] Solaris 2.6 with > 8bit color Message-ID: On Mon, 1 May 2000, daemons wrote: > I recently loaded the 5/98 release of Solaris 2.6 on a 3GX. I tried thre > times to install the NCE packages from tadpole.com but each time they > broke the linker and boot loader and rendered the machine totally useless. > I tried running the NCE binaries from my other 3GX with 2.5.1 with no > avail.. fbconfig would just crash the screen..so how in heck can I get > > 8bbp on this thing ? NCE from Solaris 2.5.1. won't work as reported in the FAQ: .4. What OS does the SparcBook 3 run and do I need to purchase from Tadpole? The SparcBook 3 will run Sunos 4.1.3-u1 and any Solaris version up to and including Solaris 2.6! Not all of the original distributions from SUN will work fine. But apparantly Solaris 2.6 (5/98) seems to install fine. But note that you still need the add-on's listed below. One can download the additional packages required to let Solaris 2.6 run on your sparc book from: ftp.tadpole.com/pub/sbu/S3-patches/Solaris_2.6/ The file that contains all of them is: ftp.tadpole.com/pub/sbu/S3-patches/Solaris_2.6/TTI_Solaris_2.6_packag es.tar.Z However this does not include the NCE graphical utilities. These are not around at present times but may be available in the future. (Unlikely for Solaris 2.6 now that Solaris 8 is out.) The solaris commands to use instead of NCE are: * battery (for battery management), * locations/chloc/rmloc/saveloc/lsloc (for the network location stuff), * diskid (for disk management), * fbconfig (for monitor setup), * kbconfig (keyboard), * msconfig (mouse), * lsformat (format floppy), * syshw (for other hardware tuning), Checkout their respective manual pages for more details. Alternatives are Linux, openBSD and NetBSD. (See also: Q: .12., Q: .14., Q: .15. and Q: .13.) Last change: 20000410 Granted is does not tell you explicitly that NCE will break down the house if you run it on anything else but Solaris 2.5.1 but it dows tell you that there is no NCE for Solaris 2.6 Getting Solaris 2.6 from TadPole won't help. As it does not contain NCE on the CD. It's not there and the command line utilities ar all you have. Hugo. -- Hugo van der Kooij; Oranje Nassaustraat 16; 3155 VJ Maasland hvdkooij at caiw.nl http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/ -------------------------------------------------------------- Quoting this tagline is illegal! (http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html) From sunder at sunder.net Mon May 1 15:15:45 2000 From: sunder at sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 16:15:45 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Solaris 2.6 with > 8bit color Message-ID: Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl wrote: > > NCE from Solaris 2.5.1. won't work as reported in the FAQ: > > .4. What OS does the SparcBook 3 run and do I need to purchase from > Tadpole? > > The SparcBook 3 will run Sunos 4.1.3-u1 and any Solaris version up to > and including Solaris 2.6! Not all of the original distributions from Faq is slightly incorrect. There is a Solaris 7 specifically from Tadpole that works. But it's $350. > Granted is does not tell you explicitly that NCE will break down the house > if you run it on anything else but Solaris 2.5.1 but it dows tell you that > there is no NCE for Solaris 2.6 There is also no NCE for Solaris 7. The same command line tools in 2.6 are available. > Getting Solaris 2.6 from TadPole won't help. As it does not contain NCE on > the CD. It's not there and the command line utilities ar all you have. Yup, ditto for 7. -- ---------------------------- Kaos Keraunos Kybernetos -------------------- + ^ + Sunder "Only someone completely distrustful of /|\ \|/ sunder at sunder.net all government would be opposed to what /\|/\ <--*--> -------------------- we are doing with surveillance cameras" \/|\/ /|\ You're on the air. -- NYC Police Commish H. Safir. \|/ + v + Say 'Hi' to Echelon "Privacy is an 'antisocial act'" - The FedZ. ---------------------------- http://www.sunder.net ----------------------- I love the smell of Malathion in the morning, it smells like brain cancer. From len at NETSYS.COM Mon May 1 15:25:34 2000 From: len at NETSYS.COM (Len Rose) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 16:25:34 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Solaris 2.6 with > 8bit color Message-ID: Are you sure about this? When I spoke with Tadpole they said no more NCE ever. On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 04:15:45PM -0400, Sunder wrote: > There is also no NCE for Solaris 7. The same command line tools in 2.6 are > available. > -- len at netsys.com http://www.netsys.com From sunder at sunder.net Mon May 1 15:44:15 2000 From: sunder at sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 16:44:15 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Solaris 2.6 with > 8bit color Message-ID: Len Rose wrote: > > Are you sure about this? When I spoke with Tadpole they said no more NCE ever. > > On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 04:15:45PM -0400, Sunder wrote: > > > There is also no NCE for Solaris 7. The same command line tools in 2.6 are > > available. That's what I said "There is also >no< NCE for Solaris 7" I'm one of the few suckers that forked over the $350 for Sol7 + Tadpole patches. Indeed no NCE. :) You have to use the command line tools such as fbconfig, syshw et al. Far as I know NCE exists only on 2.5.1. Not sure about 2.5 or SunOs 4.x. -- ---------------------------- Kaos Keraunos Kybernetos -------------------- + ^ + Sunder "Only someone completely distrustful of /|\ \|/ sunder at sunder.net all government would be opposed to what /\|/\ <--*--> -------------------- we are doing with surveillance cameras" \/|\/ /|\ You're on the air. -- NYC Police Commish H. Safir. \|/ + v + Say 'Hi' to Echelon "Privacy is an 'antisocial act'" - The FedZ. ---------------------------- http://www.sunder.net ----------------------- I love the smell of Malathion in the morning, it smells like brain cancer. From len at NETSYS.COM Mon May 1 16:04:53 2000 From: len at NETSYS.COM (Len Rose) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 17:04:53 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Solaris 2.6 with > 8bit color Message-ID: Sorry for misunderstanding.. a very late night coupled with lack of caffiene syndrome.. > That's what I said "There is also >no< NCE for Solaris 7" I'm one of the few > suckers that forked over the $350 for Sol7 + Tadpole patches. Indeed no NCE. > :) > > You have to use the command line tools such as fbconfig, syshw et al. > > Far as I know NCE exists only on 2.5.1. Not sure about 2.5 or SunOs 4.x. > -- len at netsys.com http://www.netsys.com From Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl Mon May 1 16:18:09 2000 From: Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl (Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:18:09 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [SPARCbook] Solaris 2.6 with > 8bit color Message-ID: On Mon, 1 May 2000, Sunder wrote: > Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl wrote: > > > > NCE from Solaris 2.5.1. won't work as reported in the FAQ: > > > > .4. What OS does the SparcBook 3 run and do I need to purchase from > > Tadpole? > > > > The SparcBook 3 will run Sunos 4.1.3-u1 and any Solaris version up to > > and including Solaris 2.6! Not all of the original distributions from > > > > Faq is slightly incorrect. There is a Solaris 7 specifically from Tadpole that > works. But it's $350. It's partly covered under another question. (Which was not cited here as it was not relevant to the specific question.) I'll make some changes to this Q&A. Hugo. -- Hugo van der Kooij; Oranje Nassaustraat 16; 3155 VJ Maasland hvdkooij at caiw.nl http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/ -------------------------------------------------------------- Quoting this tagline is illegal! (http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html) From rich at alcor.concordia.ca Tue May 2 08:41:53 2000 From: rich at alcor.concordia.ca (Rich Lafferty) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:41:53 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Re: Requiem for a Sparcbook (parts for sale) Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 06:57:07PM -0400, Rich Lafferty (rich at alcor.concordia.ca) wrote: > > So, I've got a parts machine. Display worked last time the machine > worked, so if you need a spare display, here it is. Ditto for > keyboard. Other than that, I've really no idea what works and what > doesn't; when it was put away it was complaining of watchdog resets, > and now it doesn't even have the energy to complain about that, it > just sits there like a brick (a stylish, magnesium brick, but a brick > nonetheless). > > So, then, dissecting the cadaver, i.e. FOR SALE: Everything's sold! Thanks to all (many!) that replied. -Rich -- ------------------------------ Rich Lafferty --------------------------- Sysadmin/Programmer, Instructional and Information Technology Services Concordia University, Montreal, QC (514) 848-7625 ------------------------- rich at alcor.concordia.ca ---------------------- From sunder at anon7.sunder.net Tue May 2 08:41:25 2000 From: sunder at anon7.sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:41:25 -0400 (edt) Subject: [SPARCbook] Solaris 2.6 with > 8bit color Message-ID: I've had a few of those myself. :) On Mon, 1 May 2000, Len Rose wrote: > Sorry for misunderstanding.. a very late night coupled with lack of caffiene > syndrome.. > > > > That's what I said "There is also >no< NCE for Solaris 7" I'm one of the few > > suckers that forked over the $350 for Sol7 + Tadpole patches. Indeed no NCE. > > :) > > > > You have to use the command line tools such as fbconfig, syshw et al. > > > > Far as I know NCE exists only on 2.5.1. Not sure about 2.5 or SunOs 4.x. > > > > > -- > len at netsys.com > http://www.netsys.com > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > From sunder at anon7.sunder.net Tue May 2 08:46:36 2000 From: sunder at anon7.sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:46:36 -0400 (edt) Subject: [SPARCbook] Upgrading hard drives... Message-ID: So I went and got myself a nice 2.5" drive from dirtcheapdrives.com, $179 for 6.4gb. Not bad. In the worse case, I can always put this disk in my Thinkpad... But it turns out that I have a much older 2Gb disk. It does have a SCSI to IDE interface on it, however, it's not a header, but instead, it's a screw on board that attaches to the bottom of the drive. It's attached by some really tiny Torx screws. I'm sure they're smaller than T8's as I've got a T8 and a T10 for use on Apple PowerBooks. So off to Rat Shack I will go in search of Torx screw drivers... sigh... Basically, on one end, it accepts the Tadpole sled cable, on the other end, it has an IDE bridge connector that plugs into the IBM disk. The card itself is screwed in to its own rails by the said small torx screws (T6? T4?) and the rail is attached to the drive. I can't see the screws that attach to the IBM drive itself as there are no holes, but their heads are much bigger than the small torx ones on top. I've taken a few pix and will put this stuff online as an addition to the SAQ available on Scott Yellich's web site. From wstrange at polarisdata.com Tue May 2 09:27:59 2000 From: wstrange at polarisdata.com (Bill Strange) Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 09:27:59 -0500 Subject: [SPARCbook] Upgrading hard drives... Message-ID: Sunder wrote: > > So I went and got myself a nice 2.5" drive from dirtcheapdrives.com, $179 > for 6.4gb. Not bad. In the worse case, I can always put this disk in my > Thinkpad... > > But it turns out that I have a much older 2Gb disk. It does have a SCSI > to IDE interface on it, however, it's not a header, but instead, it's a > screw on board that attaches to the bottom of the drive. It's attached by > some really tiny Torx screws. I'm sure they're smaller than T8's as I've > got a T8 and a T10 for use on Apple PowerBooks. The trick is to use some good needle-nosed pliers to remove the torx screws. Perhaps a bit brutish, but very effective. First remove the card from the rails, then the rails from the drive. Then reverse-order for the new one. The screws really are not all that tight. Be certain to observe the board orientation, lest you do the job twice. I did the job twice. Bill Strange From khansen at pluto.njcc.com Tue May 2 10:01:07 2000 From: khansen at pluto.njcc.com (Ken Hansen) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 11:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] Re: Requiem for a Sparcbook (parts for sale) Message-ID: I'd be curious what the "salvage" value of the Sparcbook was - I suspect you may have made out OK... Just curious, Ken n2vip at bellatlantic.net > On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 06:57:07PM -0400, Rich Lafferty (rich at alcor.concordia.ca) wrote: > > > > So, I've got a parts machine. Display worked last time the machine > > worked, so if you need a spare display, here it is. Ditto for > > keyboard. Other than that, I've really no idea what works and what > > doesn't; when it was put away it was complaining of watchdog resets, > > and now it doesn't even have the energy to complain about that, it > > just sits there like a brick (a stylish, magnesium brick, but a brick > > nonetheless). > > > > So, then, dissecting the cadaver, i.e. FOR SALE: > > Everything's sold! Thanks to all (many!) that replied. > > -Rich > > -- > ------------------------------ Rich Lafferty --------------------------- > Sysadmin/Programmer, Instructional and Information Technology Services > Concordia University, Montreal, QC (514) 848-7625 > ------------------------- rich at alcor.concordia.ca ---------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > From sunder at sunder.net Tue May 2 11:37:40 2000 From: sunder at sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 12:37:40 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Upgrading hard drives... Message-ID: Bill Strange wrote: > > The trick is to use some good needle-nosed pliers to remove the torx > screws. Perhaps a bit brutish, but very effective. First remove the > card from the rails, then the rails from the drive. Then reverse-order > for the new one. The screws really are not all that tight. Alas, and alack, mine were on tight. I've managed to plier off one of the four, but no more than that. I did pick up some trox bits, but I don't think I've the right size (yet.) > Be certain to observe the board orientation, lest you do the job twice. > I did the job twice. Yup. :) -- ---------------------------- Kaos Keraunos Kybernetos -------------------- + ^ + Sunder "Only someone completely distrustful of /|\ \|/ sunder at sunder.net all government would be opposed to what /\|/\ <--*--> -------------------- we are doing with surveillance cameras" \/|\/ /|\ You're on the air. -- NYC Police Commish H. Safir. \|/ + v + Say 'Hi' to Echelon "Privacy is an 'antisocial act'" - The FedZ. ---------------------------- http://www.sunder.net ----------------------- I love the smell of Malathion in the morning, it smells like brain cancer. From ml at rz.uni-potsdam.de Tue May 2 11:33:36 2000 From: ml at rz.uni-potsdam.de (Michael Lorenz) Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 18:33:36 +0200 Subject: [SPARCbook] Solaris 2.6 with > 8bit color Message-ID: Greetings, > I recently loaded the 5/98 release of Solaris 2.6 on a 3GX. I tried thre > times to install the NCE packages from tadpole.com but each time they > broke the linker and boot loader and rendered the machine totally useless. > I tried running the NCE binaries from my other 3GX with 2.5.1 with no > avail.. fbconfig would just crash the screen..so how in heck can I get > > 8bbp on this thing ? Forget NCE, there is no NCE for 2.6. The fbconfig that comes with Solaris does the job, but you're better off with the Tadpole packages for 2.6. bye Michael From arno at panix.com Tue May 2 15:39:03 2000 From: arno at panix.com (arno uhlmelmahei) Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 16:39:03 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Upgrading hard drives... Message-ID: Sunder wrote: > > Bill Strange wrote: > > > > The trick is to use some good needle-nosed pliers to remove the torx > > screws. Perhaps a bit brutish, but very effective. First remove the > > card from the rails, then the rails from the drive. Then reverse-order > > for the new one. The screws really are not all that tight. > > Alas, and alack, mine were on tight. I've managed to plier off one of the > four, but no more than that. I did pick up some trox bits, but I don't think > I've the right size (yet.) > > > Be certain to observe the board orientation, lest you do the job twice. > > I did the job twice. > > Yup. :) > > It's a number 6 torx wrench. Any good hardware store should have one. Be nice to your machines, people. Regards, Arno From Mark at Misty.com Tue May 2 18:13:56 2000 From: Mark at Misty.com (Mark G. Thomas) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 19:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] Upgrading hard drives... Message-ID: Hi, .... > But it turns out that I have a much older 2Gb disk. It does have a SCSI > to IDE interface on it, however, it's not a header, but instead, it's a > screw on board that attaches to the bottom of the drive. It's attached by > some really tiny Torx screws. I'm sure they're smaller than T8's as I've > got a T8 and a T10 for use on Apple PowerBooks. So far all of the several 2GB Tadpole drives I've seen are as exactly as you describe, including the ones I've upgraded drives on. It is a T-6, as someone else mentioned. These are actually not as rare as one might think, although I vaguely recollect that they are a problem to get bits for in a couple states because of some legislation and locks on prison cells which are held together with T-6 screws. > So off to Rat Shack I will go in search of Torx screw drivers... sigh... I doubt they have them though. > Basically, on one end, it accepts the Tadpole sled cable, on the other > end, it has an IDE bridge connector that plugs into the IBM disk. Yep. > The card itself is screwed in to its own rails by the said small torx > screws (T6? T4?) and the rail is attached to the drive. I can't see the > screws that attach to the IBM drive itself as there are no holes, but > their heads are much bigger than the small torx ones on top. > > I've taken a few pix and will put this stuff online as an addition to the > SAQ available on Scott Yellich's web site. Mark -- Mark G. Thomas (Mark at Misty.com -- http://www.misty.com/) From sunder at anon7.sunder.net Wed May 3 07:31:33 2000 From: sunder at anon7.sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:31:33 -0400 (edt) Subject: [SPARCbook] Upgrading hard drives... Message-ID: On Tue, 2 May 2000, Mark G. Thomas wrote: > > Hi, > > .... > > But it turns out that I have a much older 2Gb disk. It does have a SCSI > > to IDE interface on it, however, it's not a header, but instead, it's a > > screw on board that attaches to the bottom of the drive. It's attached by > > some really tiny Torx screws. I'm sure they're smaller than T8's as I've > > got a T8 and a T10 for use on Apple PowerBooks. > > So far all of the several 2GB Tadpole drives I've seen are as exactly > as you describe, including the ones I've upgraded drives on. Ah, ok. From the description I've seen, I was under the impression that the IDE<->SCSI convertor was on the plug, not an entire card the same size as the drive. Ok. > It is a T-6, as someone else mentioned. These are actually not as rare > as one might think, although I vaguely recollect that they are a problem > to get bits for in a couple states because of some legislation and locks > on prison cells which are held together with T-6 screws. NY might be one of those. I've tried three different hardware stores and two Radio Shacks, and couldn't find the T-6. The smallest bits were a T9, and a T8. I did find a few Torx bits with a hole in the center. These also didn't fit. I found a hex key that almost fit. I could turn this hex key in the star shaped hole for a little bit, but after a couple of turns, it stripped the screw, so the key turned in place... About an hour or two of careful plier work did the trick. I also used the plier bits to bend the rails a bit back and forth around the screw a few times until they loosened it, then I was able to use the needle nose on the screw heads until they loosened. So I'm no longer in search of T6 bits. Thanks much for all the help. One thing, you might want to stay away from the Toshiba 6.0gb disks (The $169 or $179 at dirtcheapdrives.) their holes are a bit different from the IBM one, so the rail doesn't fit exactly. You can get it mounted with the old rails, however, when you do, a bit of the rail sticks out and makes the drive not fit inside the Tadpole sled. I got rid of the rails, and used a few flexible foam stick on feet until I got the right distances, and it worked like a charm. This also got rid of the size problem as the Toshiba drive is a lot smaller in height from the IBM disk, and I didn't want it rattling around in the sled. So I added the foam feet on the insides of the sled as well so as to keep the drive safe (corners only as you don't want to squeeze the top center of the drive!!!) Works beautifully. I've reinstalled Solaris last night, and am now installing the usual GNU freeware. It's good to have some free space again, and I can more than likely recycle the old 2gb disk for use in my Thinkpad which has a measly 800m disk. From mendes at datacomm-insights.com Thu May 4 22:50:07 2000 From: mendes at datacomm-insights.com (Jerry Mendes) Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 20:50:07 -0700 Subject: [SPARCbook] Upgrading 1.2 MB Hard Drive Message-ID: OK, I've read through the archives and talked with Tadpole RDI about their option ($2,000 for an 11 GB drive). They explained that I will need a special mounting bracket (which they don't sell separately, thank you very much). And I've read in the list that somehow I need to convert a standard IDE drive interface to SCSI (or is it the other way 'round?). I'd like to upgrade my 3GX to at least 2 GB, possibly 4 GB drive. I'm open to advice and suggestions on where to go shopping. I'm in the San Francisco/Silicon Valley area, and there are a few recycling places with weird stuff... :) Thanks. From len at NETSYS.COM Thu May 4 23:06:54 2000 From: len at NETSYS.COM (Len Rose) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 00:06:54 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Upgrading 1.2 MB Hard Drive Message-ID: Just order the MCE-MS64SCSI from www.powerbook.com .. 6.4gb 2.5" drive w/ide to scsi converter included. $424.00 including shipping. On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 08:50:07PM -0700, Jerry Mendes wrote: > I'd like to upgrade my 3GX to at least 2 GB, possibly 4 GB drive. > -- len at netsys.com http://www.netsys.com From sunder at anon7.sunder.net Fri May 5 07:29:42 2000 From: sunder at anon7.sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 08:29:42 -0400 (edt) Subject: [SPARCbook] Upgrading 1.2 MB Hard Drive Message-ID: Yup, unfortunately, 6gb 2.5" IDE disks can be had for under $200. The high price of this is simply the SCSI->IDE converter, which the 1gb sleds don't have. However, the good news is that if you should need even more space afterwards, you can always get a bigger 2.5" IDE disk. You can easily fit a new drive in the Tadpole sled. You might wish to invest in some foam rubber feet, as the 2.5" drive + converter might not be as high as the old 1.2Gb disk. Put these on the corners of the case, in both sides. (Careful: I said - foam rubber feet, don't use solid rubber here!) I beleive I got those from Radio Shack a while back. The Tadpole Sled is very easy to open. No screws to worry about. They two sides, clip on each other. You just have to use a small flathead screw driver to carefully pop open each of the latches, then the drive just falls out. You don't have to worry about putting the drive in upside down, as the cutout for the SCSI ID makes that easily visible. Also, keep the D connector + SCSI ID dip switch orange cable from your old drive as you'll need this for your new drive. On Fri, 5 May 2000, Len Rose wrote: > Just order the MCE-MS64SCSI from www.powerbook.com .. > 6.4gb 2.5" drive w/ide to scsi converter included. > > $424.00 including shipping. > > > On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 08:50:07PM -0700, Jerry Mendes wrote: > > > I'd like to upgrade my 3GX to at least 2 GB, possibly 4 GB drive. From SHens32572 at aol.com Sat May 6 20:00:33 2000 From: SHens32572 at aol.com (SHens32572 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 21:00:33 EDT Subject: [SPARCbook] Hard drive caddy for SPARCbook, eBay #326427875 Message-ID: Does anyone need a Hard Drive caddy for SPARCbook 3GX, 3GS ? I have one for sale on eBay auction, see at http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=326427875 I also have good screen from 3GX, no housing for $50 plus shipping cost Scott Hensley shens32572 at aol.com From sunder at anon7.sunder.net Sat May 6 20:43:54 2000 From: sunder at anon7.sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 21:43:54 -0400 (edt) Subject: [SPARCbook] What to do when create no-restore? fails! [Add to FAQ please!] Message-ID: Please add this to the SPARCbook FAQ's: Executive summary: if create no-restore? fails, use boot -a and hit enter on every prompt except the kernel. For this, type in kernel/unix Geek version: Hey guys, I had a little crash after installing Sol7 on my new disk. Basically I installed Solaris 7, and after the reboot, installed a whole ton of GNU utilities. During that time I also applied the latest recommended patch cluster from sunsolve.sun.com. Once I was done, I told the Sparcbook to shutdown using the CDE interface, and it just locked up at the "Shutdown" dialog box with the "Shutdown button" depressed. As it was really truly late last night and I was tired, I didn't wait past four minutes as it look crashed, so I powered off. When I booted it up this morning, it was stuck at the usual "Attempting to restore system, failed, please do a normal boot." This was likely due to the fact that I shut down hard, and the file system wasn't too happy. I've tried the create no-restore? trick several times, both during the system banner (Tadpole logo with memory and ROM info) and during the big screen with red text saying "SPARCBook" on it. No go. The OBP accepted my create no-restore? command, but back I was at the CPR error once more. Not even boot disk -r worked. I did find a trick around this. Doing an interactive boot, (boot -a) worked like a charm. Do boot -a, and the Open Boot Prom will interactively ask you information about the boot paths. The kernel path will show up as simply "cprboot" this is the one you'll want to change to "kernel/unix" and then it will work just fine. Leave the others to their defaults. Just hit enter. I've tried boot disk kernel/unix but this didn't work. I know there's a way to pass the kernel name as a parameter to the boot command, anyone remember what it is? (I actually used boot disk -a -s -v in my case. -a goes into interactive mode, -s single user mode, -v is verbose. Once in single user mode, I ran fsck -y to fix the file systems, and then exited to let it boot normally. That did the trick.) From robmohr at earthlink.net Tue May 9 23:11:52 2000 From: robmohr at earthlink.net (Robert D. Mohr) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:11:52 -0700 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook 2 SCSI port Message-ID: I am attempting to set up an external CDROM (Toshiba XM-5401B Sun bootable) for use on my SPARCbook 2. With the SCSI adapters and cables I had laying around I was able to connect the two together, but the SPARCbook reports a SCSI failure on boot up when the cables are connected. I suspect that the pinot of the SCSI port on the SPARCbook does not match the wiring of the cables I have. Is it wired "normal" or differential? Does anyone have a pin out diagram for the SPARCbook 2? Or perhaps a wiring diagram for a cable that is known to work? As a last resort, could someone point me to a vendor that supplies cables that will work with the SPARCbook? Thanks in advance for your assistance, Rob Mohr From khansen at njcc.com Tue May 9 21:34:44 2000 From: khansen at njcc.com (Ken Hansen) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 22:34:44 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook 2 SCSI port Message-ID: SCSI ID... I'll bet your CD-ROM is not set to ID 6... Just a thought... Ken n2vip at bellatlantic.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert D. Mohr" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 12:11 AM Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook 2 SCSI port > I am attempting to set up an external CDROM (Toshiba XM-5401B Sun bootable) > for use on my SPARCbook 2. With the SCSI adapters and cables I had laying > around I was able to connect the two together, but the SPARCbook reports a > SCSI failure on boot up when the cables are connected. I suspect that the > pinot of the SCSI port on the SPARCbook does not match the wiring of the > cables I have. Is it wired "normal" or differential? > > Does anyone have a pin out diagram for the SPARCbook 2? Or perhaps a wiring > diagram for a cable that is known to work? As a last resort, could someone > point me to a vendor that supplies cables that will work with the SPARCbook? > > Thanks in advance for your assistance, > > Rob Mohr > > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > From jea at altstatt.com Tue May 9 22:05:53 2000 From: jea at altstatt.com (John Altstatt) Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 20:05:53 -0700 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook 2 SCSI port Message-ID: Ken Hansen wrote: > > SCSI ID... I'll bet your CD-ROM is not set to ID 6... > > Just a thought... > > Ken > n2vip at bellatlantic.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert D. Mohr" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 12:11 AM > Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook 2 SCSI port > > > I am attempting to set up an external CDROM (Toshiba XM-5401B Sun > bootable) > > for use on my SPARCbook 2. With the SCSI adapters and cables I had laying > > around I was able to connect the two together, but the SPARCbook reports a > > SCSI failure on boot up when the cables are connected. I suspect that the > > pinot of the SCSI port on the SPARCbook does not match the wiring of the > > cables I have. Is it wired "normal" or differential? > > > > Does anyone have a pin out diagram for the SPARCbook 2? Or perhaps a > wiring > > diagram for a cable that is known to work? As a last resort, could > someone > > point me to a vendor that supplies cables that will work with the > SPARCbook? > > > > Thanks in advance for your assistance, > > > > Rob Mohr > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook Rob; Do a probe-scsi at the prom-monitor prompt to see what devices it thinks are there. The sparcbook is single-ended scsi, just like your sparc II. If you can't see the hard disk OR the cdrom, you've got some cable problems. John Altstatt From robmohr at earthlink.net Wed May 10 02:05:02 2000 From: robmohr at earthlink.net (Robert D. Mohr) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:05:02 -0700 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook 2 SCSI port Message-ID: Both the SB1 and 2 were... quite non-standard. Yes, I've done all the obvious things... tested the CDROM using NetBSD on my DECStation... No, the SB2 does not have openboot firmware. Rob -----Original Message----- From: Len Rose [mailto:len at netsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 6:37 PM To: Robert D. Mohr Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook 2 SCSI port I don't have a SB 2, I have a 3GX.. I've used standard cables with this machine w/no problems. I'd like to offer (perhaps an obvious solution) .. Did you put a terminator on the cd rom drive? .. Not being familiar with SB2, does it have openboot firmware? If so, does "probe-scsi" work from the "ok" prompt.. i.e. does it recognize the cd drive? Sorry, I can't think of anything else right now. On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 09:11:52PM -0700, Robert D. Mohr wrote: > I am attempting to set up an external CDROM (Toshiba XM-5401B Sun bootable) > for use on my SPARCbook 2. With the SCSI adapters and cables I had laying > around I was able to connect the two together, but the SPARCbook reports a > SCSI failure on boot up when the cables are connected. I suspect that the > pinot of the SCSI port on the SPARCbook does not match the wiring of the > cables I have. Is it wired "normal" or differential? > > Does anyone have a pin out diagram for the SPARCbook 2? Or perhaps a wiring > diagram for a cable that is known to work? As a last resort, could someone > point me to a vendor that supplies cables that will work with the SPARCbook? > > Thanks in advance for your assistance, > > Rob Mohr > > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook From pkhoury3 at earthlink.net Wed May 10 12:32:28 2000 From: pkhoury3 at earthlink.net (Paul Khoury) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 10:32:28 -0700 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook 2 SCSI port Message-ID: On Wed, 10 May 2000 00:05:02 -0700, Robert D. Mohr wrote: >Both the SB1 and 2 were... quite non-standard. Yes, I've done all the >obvious things... tested the CDROM using NetBSD on my DECStation... > Unfortunately. Such a shame, as I have an SB2 sitting on top of my switch being unused. >No, the SB2 does not have openboot firmware. > Big disadvantage. But at least it has a standard AUI port on it. As for the SCSI cable, I've heard that it's the same as older powerbooks, but I've never seen the cable for it before, and I really don't want to attempt making a patch cable. Paul From pkhoury3 at earthlink.net Wed May 10 12:35:00 2000 From: pkhoury3 at earthlink.net (Paul Khoury) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 10:35:00 -0700 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook 2 SCSI port Message-ID: On Tue, 09 May 2000 20:05:53 -0700, John Altstatt wrote: >Do a probe-scsi at the prom-monitor prompt to see what devices it thinks >are there. >The sparcbook is single-ended scsi, just like your sparc II. If you >can't >see the hard disk OR the cdrom, you've got some cable problems. > John, this isn't possible - the firmware isn't Open Boot, but rather some proprietary Tadpole crap. Really is annoying configuring the system and trying to install an OS. And mine crashes after loading the kernel. Doh! Paul From rob.mohr at cat-1.com Wed May 10 14:27:45 2000 From: rob.mohr at cat-1.com (Rob Mohr) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 15:27:45 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] RE: Sparcbook digest, Vol 1 #186 - 4 msgs Message-ID: Ken, The SCSI ID is set to 6. I tried other settings as well. Rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Ken Hansen" To: Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook 2 SCSI port Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 22:34:44 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org SCSI ID... I'll bet your CD-ROM is not set to ID 6... Just a thought... Ken n2vip at bellatlantic.net From rob.mohr at cat-1.com Wed May 10 14:33:02 2000 From: rob.mohr at cat-1.com (Rob Mohr) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 15:33:02 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] RE: Sparcbook digest, Vol 1 #186 - 4 msgs Message-ID: John, As far as I know, this isn't possible on the SB2. It has a custom prom-monitor from Tadpole which just has rudimentary diagnostics. It is all menu driven, and does not have a generic monitor prompt from which to enter any commands. Rob ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob; Do a probe-scsi at the prom-monitor prompt to see what devices it thinks are there. The sparcbook is single-ended scsi, just like your sparc II. If you can't see the hard disk OR the cdrom, you've got some cable problems. John Altstatt From sparcbook at theleftcoast.net Thu May 11 02:11:22 2000 From: sparcbook at theleftcoast.net (George Kupfer) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 00:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] WTB 3GX motherboards Message-ID: Hi all: If anyone has a 3GX for parts I would like to buy the motherboards (as in both the CPU board and the board underneath). Will pay top $ (well maybe not top $ but some good money anyway) Thanks for your time -george From sunder at anon7.sunder.net Thu May 11 14:53:05 2000 From: sunder at anon7.sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:53:05 -0400 (edt) Subject: [SPARCbook] Seldomly Asked Question page updated Message-ID: http://www.sunder.net/SPARCBook/index.html Added info on upgrading drives w/ pix. Added picture of Thinkpad Accupoint pointer (aka nipple) ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ From thpo10c at wanadoo.fr Fri May 12 05:39:21 2000 From: thpo10c at wanadoo.fr (Thierry Palmiero) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:39:21 +0200 Subject: [SPARCbook] SparcBook 1 Crashed Message-ID: C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFBC0F.1896A380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can 't reinstall a system on my sparcbook by tftpboot whith a ultra5 . It's possible to have at a god price a doc of this machine ? Sparcbook 1 2 disks AREAL 180 no diskett no cdrom but I have AUI to RJ45 convector AUI to BNC convector =20 Thank you for all help=20 =20 Thierry=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFBC0F.1896A380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFBC0F.1896A380-- From hippogriff at animail.net Sun May 14 21:40:18 2000 From: hippogriff at animail.net (Leo Griffiths) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 03:40:18 +0100 Subject: [SPARCbook] Sparcbook 2 battery door Message-ID: Hi all, I just bought a Sparcbook 2, but it came without the door to the battery compartment, so the battery is held in by duck tape at the moment. I am looking for the door, and the bit which locks it (assuming that's what goes in the round hole next to the batttery compartment door). Has anybody got a spare one lying around that they could sell me? Also, is there a source for new batteries; the one I've got is barely working at all. Thanks Leo Griffiths http://www.care2.com - Homebase for people who care about the Environment! From sunder at anon7.sunder.net Tue May 16 08:52:51 2000 From: sunder at anon7.sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:52:51 -0400 (edt) Subject: [SPARCbook] CPR q's and overheating disk Message-ID: I've recently upgraded my disk to a 6gb Toshiba drive. After three days of installing lots of software, the disk died. I RMA'd the disk and got a new one. The one is still working just fine, however it also overheats. Installing and compiling tons of software causes it to overheat, to the point where I can't use it for more than three hours at a time. (This is with a small desk fan aimed at the sparcbook and a PC card fan installed!) I suspect that when the CPU is working hard it heats up the machine to the point of failing the drive. Of course when compiling the drive is very active and heats up also. I also suspect that charging the battery heats things up as well. I got this impression from feeling the bottom of the sparcbook. The drive was warm, but the battery was much hotter. Under Solaris 7, there is a CDE power manager, I've set this to shut down the disk after 5 minutes. I hope that's something that will work in a Sparcbook and actually spin down the disk when idle and correctly power it back up. So my question is: will the Power Manager in Sol7 work correctly with Sparcbooks, and what else can I do to cut down on heat build up? (Yes, I do realize that someone not so long ago pointed out that Sparcbooks have great heat management and that it's silly to point fans at them, and prop them up, and install PC Card fans, because we'd be "second guessing the engineers who know more than we do" -- but in this case, I do have a confirmed, heat problem.) My 2nd question is that the sparcbook stores the .CPR file when suspending/restoring to /export/home. When I've installed this disk, I've setup the root partition to have 256Mb - ditto for /var. I'd like to force cpr to store the .CPR file on either root or var. I see /.cpr_config, however, this is a binary file. (While I can see the path to the file system and the disk device, the file contains nulls and other binary chars that vi would mess up.) How do I change where the cpr module stores its stuff? On my SPARCstation 5 desktop, I also see a .cpr_default which does not appear on the sparcbook. Do I just create this one on the sparcbook? Or is there something else I have to run that builds the .cpr_config file? ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ From reiwb3 at bright.net Tue May 16 14:57:52 2000 From: reiwb3 at bright.net (Robert Wier) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:57:52 -0700 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook 3 XP parts Message-ID: Robert Wier reiwb3 at bright.net -------------------------------------------------------- Hello Does any know of a reliable source of SPARCbook 3XP parts. What I need to find is a 1.2 gig hard drive and sled, and a AC supply. Any information will be appreciated. Robert reiwb3 at bright.net From lemmy at eaze.net Tue May 16 12:02:27 2000 From: lemmy at eaze.net (Chris Sterling) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:02:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] SB3 Keyboard Message-ID: I lost my '3 e d c' row of keys on my SB3GX today. I've taken it apart and tried re-seating the keyboard connector, but that did not help. I tries a type 5 external, which works fine, so it's not the controller. The stick also works fine. I've got the model/part# of the Lexmark keyboard, but I have not found any for sale on the web just yet. It's a IBM/Lexmark product, type M6-1, does anyone know where I can find one? Thanks! -------------------------------- Chris Sterling System Administrator EazeNet lemmy at eaze.net Office: 817-557-3038 Fax: 817-557-3468 From pawwright at citnet.com Tue May 16 13:19:06 2000 From: pawwright at citnet.com (Paul Wright) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 14:19:06 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook] CPR q's and overheating disk Message-ID: I, too, had this problem with Sol 7 install after completed with the 3gx. The only remedy I came up with, which may not be feasible for you, is to downgrade to 2.6. After going back to 2.6, the heat issue was no more. Paul From kurthuhn at k-huhn.com Tue May 16 16:37:38 2000 From: kurthuhn at k-huhn.com (Kurt Huhn) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 14:37:38 -0700 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook] CPR q's and overheating disk Message-ID: If you install the tadpole patches for 2.6 you should have no more heat problems. The tapole patches contain power management features and some other stuff that really cuts down on the problems from heat. I also experienced problems similar to that - but I installed a straight 2.6 install. As soon as I put the tadpole patches in there I didn't have any more problems. Kurt -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wright To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 11:28 AM Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook] CPR q's and overheating disk >I, too, had this problem with Sol 7 install after completed with the 3gx. >The only remedy I came up with, which may not be feasible for you, is to >downgrade to 2.6. After going back to 2.6, the heat issue was no more. > >Paul > >_______________________________________________ >Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org >http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook From sunder at sunder.net Tue May 16 13:55:18 2000 From: sunder at sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 14:55:18 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook] CPR q's and overheating disk Message-ID: Kurt Huhn wrote: > > If you install the tadpole patches for 2.6 you should have no more heat > problems. The tapole patches contain power management features and some > other stuff that really cuts down on the problems from heat. I also > experienced problems similar to that - but I installed a straight 2.6 > install. As soon as I put the tadpole patches in there I didn't have any > more problems. Yeah, but I'm running Solaris 7 from Tadpole with their patches. Also, the original 2Gb disk didn't have the heat problems under Solaris 7 either, so I don't think it's a patch issue. -- ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ From ebusto at hotmail.com Tue May 16 13:59:14 2000 From: ebusto at hotmail.com (Eric Busto) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 11:59:14 PDT Subject: [SPARCbook] CPR q's and overheating disk Message-ID: >My 2nd question is that the sparcbook stores the .CPR file when >suspending/restoring to /export/home. When I've installed this disk, I've >setup the root partition to have 256Mb - ditto for /var. I'd like to >force cpr to store the .CPR file on either root or var. > >I see /.cpr_config, however, this is a binary file. (While I can see >the path to the file system and the disk device, the file contains >nulls and other binary chars that vi would mess up.) How do I change where >the cpr module stores its stuff? > sed perhaps? Just speculating. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From kurthuhn at k-huhn.com Tue May 16 17:23:55 2000 From: kurthuhn at k-huhn.com (Kurt Huhn) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:23:55 -0700 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook] CPR q's and overheating disk Message-ID: hmmm. It *could* be that your disk is causing the overheat. I only run a 1.2GB in my 3GS - though I have plans to put in a somewhat larger drive (only as high as 4GB - don't need more than that). If you find the answer, let us know. Kurt -----Original Message----- From: Sunder To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook] CPR q's and overheating disk >Kurt Huhn wrote: >> >> If you install the tadpole patches for 2.6 you should have no more heat >> problems. The tapole patches contain power management features and some >> other stuff that really cuts down on the problems from heat. I also >> experienced problems similar to that - but I installed a straight 2.6 >> install. As soon as I put the tadpole patches in there I didn't have any >> more problems. > >Yeah, but I'm running Solaris 7 from Tadpole with their patches. Also, >the original 2Gb disk didn't have the heat problems under Solaris 7 either, >so I don't think it's a patch issue. > >-- >----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- > + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ > \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ ><--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ > /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ > + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. >--------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ >_______________________________________________ >Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org >http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook From jea at altstatt.com Tue May 16 22:26:10 2000 From: jea at altstatt.com (John Altstatt) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 20:26:10 -0700 Subject: [SPARCbook] CPR q's and overheating disk Message-ID: Eric Busto wrote: > > >My 2nd question is that the sparcbook stores the .CPR file when > >suspending/restoring to /export/home. When I've installed this disk, I've . . . Eric; Have a look at /etc/power.conf . The last line set where the .CPR file is written. It needs to be in the first 2 G of the disk so it can be found by the ROM monitor. -John Altstatt From wstrange at polarisdata.com Wed May 17 12:08:25 2000 From: wstrange at polarisdata.com (Bill Strange) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 12:08:25 -0500 Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole 3000XT Message-ID: I apologize for any inconvenience caused by the following, but it seemed like such a good thing that some might want to know..... I just became aware of some Tadpole 3000XT's for sale. They are used, but in excellent condition, or so I am told, and are lease returns. These are nice boxes with minimum of 128 MB and 6GB HD. The specs can be found at the Tadpole-RDI web site. Also.... the hard drives are native IDE, so no mucking around with the SCSI-IDE conversion boards during upgrades. Anyway, they are likely pricey, relative to the 'Pennington' prices of the 3GX's, but are serious workstations. If interested, call Bill Barone at 800-500-7283. I am not sure what his bottom line pricing would be, but he says consideration will be given to volume purchases.... Again, apologies for the capitalist intrusion ;-) Bill Strange From dakeli at public.bta.net.cn Mon May 8 13:19:21 2000 From: dakeli at public.bta.net.cn (dakeli) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 02:19:21 +0800 Subject: [SPARCbook] =?iso-8859-1?B?u9i4tDogW1NQQVJDYm9va10gVGFkcG9sZSAzMDAwWFQ=?= Message-ID: Hello I can not make 800 call in China. Do you have his e-mail address? Best regards, Zhong Jian -----Original Message----- : Bill Strange : SparcBook at sunhelp.org : Thursday, May 18, 2000 1:08 AM : [SPARCbook] Tadpole 3000XT > >I apologize for any inconvenience caused by the following, but it seemed >like such a good thing that some might want to know..... > >I just became aware of some Tadpole 3000XT's for sale. They are used, >but in excellent condition, or so I am told, and are lease returns. >These are nice boxes with minimum of 128 MB and 6GB HD. The specs can >be found at the Tadpole-RDI web site. Also.... the hard drives are >native IDE, so no mucking around with the SCSI-IDE conversion boards >during upgrades. > >Anyway, they are likely pricey, relative to the 'Pennington' prices of >the 3GX's, but are serious workstations. If interested, call Bill >Barone at 800-500-7283. I am not sure what his bottom line pricing >would be, but he says consideration will be given to volume >purchases.... > > >Again, apologies for the capitalist intrusion ;-) > >Bill Strange >_______________________________________________ >Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org >http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > From khansen at pluto.njcc.com Wed May 17 13:55:13 2000 From: khansen at pluto.njcc.com (Ken Hansen) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 14:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole 3000XT Message-ID: Whomever calls this fellow, please post specifics to the list - I am curious, but not in the market (unless an *extremely* good deal, a la "Pennington." TIA, Ken n2vip at bellatlantic.net > I just became aware of some Tadpole 3000XT's for sale. They are used, > but in excellent condition, or so I am told, and are lease returns. > These are nice boxes with minimum of 128 MB and 6GB HD. The specs can > be found at the Tadpole-RDI web site. Also.... the hard drives are > native IDE, so no mucking around with the SCSI-IDE conversion boards > during upgrades. > > Anyway, they are likely pricey, relative to the 'Pennington' prices of > the 3GX's, but are serious workstations. If interested, call Bill > Barone at 800-500-7283. I am not sure what his bottom line pricing > would be, but he says consideration will be given to volume > purchases.... From wstrange at polarisdata.com Wed May 17 14:15:19 2000 From: wstrange at polarisdata.com (Bill Strange) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 14:15:19 -0500 Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole 3000XT Message-ID: dakeli wrote: > > Hello > > I can not make 800 call in China. Do you have his e-mail address? > > Best regards, > > Zhong Jian > His email address, which I guess would be preferable to telephone for everyone is: wjb at ravefinancial.com Again, this regards the Tadpole 3000XT laptops. Sorry for omitting this from the previous... *<\\\\>[========================> Bill Strange, Jr. Production Manager POLARIS E&E SERVICES, INC. 25025 I-45N Suite 380 The Woodlands, TX 77380 281-367-6000 voice 281-367-6160 fax 281-460-1990 cell <========================]<\\\\>* From rob.mohr at cat-1.com Wed May 17 14:43:28 2000 From: rob.mohr at cat-1.com (Rob Mohr) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 15:43:28 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Sparcbook 2 SCSI pin-out Message-ID: I received a fax today from Jan Eden at Tadpole Tech Plc. It contains the pinout diagram for the SCSI port on the Sparcbook 2. I've scanned the documents and would be glad to forward them to anyone on the list that may be interested. I'm refraining from sending them out to the list in general due to the size of the scans... Rob Mohr From len at netsys.com Wed May 17 15:12:32 2000 From: len at netsys.com (Len Rose) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 16:12:32 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Sparcbook 2 SCSI pin-out Message-ID: Never the less any hard to locate information should be incorporated into some sort of a global resource. On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 03:43:28PM -0400, Rob Mohr wrote: > I received a fax today from Jan Eden at Tadpole Tech Plc. It contains the > pinout diagram for the SCSI port on the Sparcbook 2. I've scanned the > documents and would be glad to forward them to anyone on the list that may > be interested. I'm refraining from sending them out to the list in general > due to the size of the scans... > > Rob Mohr From sweaver at inetnebr.com Wed May 17 15:26:35 2000 From: sweaver at inetnebr.com (Steve Weaver) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 15:26:35 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] Sparcbook 2 SCSI pin-out Message-ID: Rob Mohr writes: > > I received a fax today from Jan Eden at Tadpole Tech Plc. It contains the > pinout diagram for the SCSI port on the Sparcbook 2. I've scanned the > documents and would be glad to forward them to anyone on the list that may > be interested. I'm refraining from sending them out to the list in general > due to the size of the scans... For those who don't want 100K tiffs in their e-mail, I've put these up on the web at: http://www.aquaria.org/comp/sparcbook/2/scsipinout.html Maybe we'll get a whole archive going here someday. :) -SW -- Steven Weaver sweaver at inebraska.com Director of Technical Services http://www.inebraska.com/ Internet Nebraska 402.434.8680 From rob.mohr at cat-1.com Wed May 17 15:46:56 2000 From: rob.mohr at cat-1.com (Rob Mohr) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 16:46:56 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Sparcbook 2 SCSI pin-out Message-ID: If anyone has a complete set (or partial for that matter) of Sparcbook 2 documentation that they would be willing to send to me on a loan basis... I would be more than happy to scan and create a PDF for posting on the web. Rob Mohr -----Original Message----- From: sparcbook-admin at sunhelp.org [mailto:sparcbook-admin at sunhelp.org]On Behalf Of Steve Weaver Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 4:27 PM To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org Cc: Steve Weaver Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Sparcbook 2 SCSI pin-out Rob Mohr writes: > > I received a fax today from Jan Eden at Tadpole Tech Plc. It contains the > pinout diagram for the SCSI port on the Sparcbook 2. I've scanned the > documents and would be glad to forward them to anyone on the list that may > be interested. I'm refraining from sending them out to the list in general > due to the size of the scans... For those who don't want 100K tiffs in their e-mail, I've put these up on the web at: http://www.aquaria.org/comp/sparcbook/2/scsipinout.html Maybe we'll get a whole archive going here someday. :) -SW -- Steven Weaver sweaver at inebraska.com Director of Technical Services http://www.inebraska.com/ Internet Nebraska 402.434.8680 _______________________________________________ Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook From Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl Wed May 17 16:02:12 2000 From: Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl (Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 23:02:12 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [SPARCbook] Sparcbook 2 SCSI pin-out Message-ID: On Wed, 17 May 2000, Len Rose wrote: > Never the less any hard to locate information should be incorporated into > some sort of a global resource. > > On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 03:43:28PM -0400, Rob Mohr wrote: > > I received a fax today from Jan Eden at Tadpole Tech Plc. It contains the > > pinout diagram for the SCSI port on the Sparcbook 2. I've scanned the > > documents and would be glad to forward them to anyone on the list that may > > be interested. I'm refraining from sending them out to the list in general > > due to the size of the scans... I know Ian (and others) at TadPole has a special page for things like this. I think that wold be a nice place to have them. Hugo. -- Hugo van der Kooij; Oranje Nassaustraat 16; 3155 VJ Maasland hvdkooij at caiw.nl http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/ -------------------------------------------------------------- Quoting this tagline is illegal! (http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html) From khansen at pluto.njcc.com Wed May 17 16:10:35 2000 From: khansen at pluto.njcc.com (Ken Hansen) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] Sparcbook 2 SCSI pin-out Message-ID: Here is a hint: sunhelp.org Bill is threatening to add a compatible/clone hardware section, and this would be a great addition th such a section, IMHO. > Never the less any hard to locate information should be incorporated into > some sort of a global resource. > > On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 03:43:28PM -0400, Rob Mohr wrote: > > I received a fax today from Jan Eden at Tadpole Tech Plc. It contains the > > pinout diagram for the SCSI port on the Sparcbook 2. I've scanned the > > documents and would be glad to forward them to anyone on the list that may > > be interested. I'm refraining from sending them out to the list in general > > due to the size of the scans... From len at netsys.com Wed May 17 16:53:33 2000 From: len at netsys.com (Len Rose) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 17:53:33 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole 3000XT Message-ID: Actually RAVE's prices for used equipment were always skewed beyond any shred of reality. Since this company is affiliated with RAVE, I have very little hope that the prices will be reasonable (I called and left a message as well as sent email though :) From dakeli at public.bta.net.cn Mon May 8 13:19:21 2000 From: dakeli at public.bta.net.cn (dakeli) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 02:19:21 +0800 Subject: [SPARCbook] =?iso-8859-1?B?u9i4tDogW1NQQVJDYm9va10gVGFkcG9sZSAzMDAwWFQ=?= Message-ID: Hello I can not make 800 call in China. Do you have his e-mail address? Best regards, Zhong Jian -----Original Message----- : Bill Strange : SparcBook at sunhelp.org : Thursday, May 18, 2000 1:08 AM : [SPARCbook] Tadpole 3000XT > >I apologize for any inconvenience caused by the following, but it seemed >like such a good thing that some might want to know..... > >I just became aware of some Tadpole 3000XT's for sale. They are used, >but in excellent condition, or so I am told, and are lease returns. >These are nice boxes with minimum of 128 MB and 6GB HD. The specs can >be found at the Tadpole-RDI web site. Also.... the hard drives are >native IDE, so no mucking around with the SCSI-IDE conversion boards >during upgrades. > >Anyway, they are likely pricey, relative to the 'Pennington' prices of >the 3GX's, but are serious workstations. If interested, call Bill >Barone at 800-500-7283. I am not sure what his bottom line pricing >would be, but he says consideration will be given to volume >purchases.... > > >Again, apologies for the capitalist intrusion ;-) > >Bill Strange >_______________________________________________ >Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org >http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > From wstrange at polarisdata.com Thu May 18 09:08:34 2000 From: wstrange at polarisdata.com (Bill Strange) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:08:34 -0500 Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole 3000XT Message-ID: Len Rose wrote: > > Actually RAVE's prices for used equipment were always skewed beyond > any > shred of reality. Since this company is affiliated with RAVE, I have > very > little hope that the prices will be reasonable (I called and left a > message > as well as sent email though :) > That makes for dramatic editorial, to be certain. As a general rule, though, they are very competitive. Competitive does not mean selling retail inventory for less than the cost of storing it, as in the case of the units sold by Ross Pennington [bless his soul]. If the idea is that Ross's sale fixed the pricing index for the sparcbooks in general, then you may be right. What I believe happened is that a few of us were fortunate to ante into a game which is otherwise exclusive. The boxes they are selling now are vastly superior to the 3GX, and not vastly more costly. Before slamming these guys too much, try to keep in mind that they are very negotiable. They start high and take what they can get. Sounds like good business to me. I always negotiate with them, check their offers and negotiate again. There's a shred of reality.... *<\\\\>[========================> Bill Strange, Jr. Production Manager POLARIS E&E SERVICES, INC. 25025 I-45N Suite 380 The Woodlands, TX 77380 281-367-6000 voice 281-367-6160 fax 281-460-1990 cell <========================]<\\\\>* From bobkey at weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu Thu May 18 09:29:14 2000 From: bobkey at weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu (BSD Bob) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] Sparcbook 2 battery door Message-ID: > Also, is there a source for new batteries; the one I've got is barely > working at all. I run mine without battery. It is much lighter, and still runs fine, although is not quite so portable unless you have a few miles of extension cord.....(:+{{..... Bob From len at netsys.com Thu May 18 09:32:51 2000 From: len at netsys.com (Len Rose) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:32:51 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole 3000XT Message-ID: I didn't say that lightly.. I can typically buy equipment for usually half of what Rave sells for, and this has been based on years of buying used equipment. On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 09:08:34AM -0500, Bill Strange wrote: > > That makes for dramatic editorial, to be certain. As a general rule, > though, they are very competitive. Competitive does not mean selling > retail inventory for less than the cost of storing it, as in the case of > the units sold by Ross Pennington [bless his soul]. If the idea is that > Ross's sale fixed the pricing index for the sparcbooks in general, then > you may be right. What I believe happened is that a few of us were > fortunate to ante into a game which is otherwise exclusive. The boxes > they are selling now are vastly superior to the 3GX, and not vastly more > costly. > > Before slamming these guys too much, try to keep in mind that they are > very negotiable. They start high and take what they can get. Sounds > like good business to me. I always negotiate with them, check their > offers and negotiate again. There's a shred of reality.... From khansen at pluto.njcc.com Thu May 18 09:57:03 2000 From: khansen at pluto.njcc.com (Ken Hansen) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole 3000XT Message-ID: I think Bill's point was that Rave does deal down from their price list, but you have to call and negotiate for the deal. If you look at their price list and decide not to give them the chance to come down, is it really their fault? Just pretend each price they quote has the word "Asking" in front of it and go from there... Just trying to help, Ken n2vip at bellatlantic.net > I didn't say that lightly.. I can typically buy equipment for usually half > of what Rave sells for, and this has been based on years of buying used > equipment. > > > On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 09:08:34AM -0500, Bill Strange wrote: > > > > > That makes for dramatic editorial, to be certain. As a general rule, > > though, they are very competitive. Competitive does not mean selling > > retail inventory for less than the cost of storing it, as in the case of > > the units sold by Ross Pennington [bless his soul]. If the idea is that > > Ross's sale fixed the pricing index for the sparcbooks in general, then > > you may be right. What I believe happened is that a few of us were > > fortunate to ante into a game which is otherwise exclusive. The boxes > > they are selling now are vastly superior to the 3GX, and not vastly more > > costly. > > > > Before slamming these guys too much, try to keep in mind that they are > > very negotiable. They start high and take what they can get. Sounds > > like good business to me. I always negotiate with them, check their > > offers and negotiate again. There's a shred of reality.... From wstrange at polarisdata.com Thu May 18 10:02:19 2000 From: wstrange at polarisdata.com (Bill Strange) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:02:19 -0500 Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole 3000XT Message-ID: Len Rose wrote: > > I didn't say that lightly.. I can typically buy equipment for usually half > of what Rave sells for, and this has been based on years of buying used > equipment. > Understood. Me, too. And I do like these guys after so many years. While they will generally capitulate and meet generally acceptable pricing on currently useful equipment it is alot of work sometimes. And I have gone elsewhere for a few particularly pricy items......... I never buy hard drives from them [and tell them so], for instance. *<\\\\>[========================> Bill Strange, Jr. Production Manager POLARIS E&E SERVICES, INC. 25025 I-45N Suite 380 The Woodlands, TX 77380 281-367-6000 voice 281-367-6160 fax 281-460-1990 cell <========================]<\\\\>* From Mark at misty.com Thu May 18 10:26:02 2000 From: Mark at misty.com (Mark G. Thomas) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] CPR q's and overheating disk Message-ID: Hi, > I've recently upgraded my disk to a 6gb Toshiba drive. After three days > of installing lots of software, the disk died. I RMA'd the disk and got a .... > My 2nd question is that the sparcbook stores the .CPR file when > suspending/restoring to /export/home. When I've installed this disk, I've > setup the root partition to have 256Mb - ditto for /var. I'd like to > force cpr to store the .CPR file on either root or var. > > I see /.cpr_config, however, this is a binary file. (While I can see > the path to the file system and the disk device, the file contains > nulls and other binary chars that vi would mess up.) How do I change where > the cpr module stores its stuff? Modify /etc/power.conf to use /var/.CPR for the statefile, then run pmconfig. This works for me, and I have submitted it for the FAQ. -Mark -- Mark G. Thomas (Mark at Misty.com -- http://www.misty.com/) From bill at rave.com Thu May 18 16:08:14 2000 From: bill at rave.com (Bill Barone) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:08:14 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Sparcbooks for sale Message-ID: Hi all: I am a little new at doing this, but here is the list of equipment you were asking about. QTY MODEL DESCRIPTION Asking Bid 1 3G1 3GB disk for Tadpole $100.00 1 PLX1024-810-64 110mhz RDI POWERLITE $250.00 1 S3TX SPARCBOOK 3 TX $2500.00 1 S3XP-810C32 SPARC3XP/810GBRDD/32MB $500.00 1 T2-MODEM56 FAX/MDM XJ4336 33.6 CELL$ B/O 2 T2-RDD-1.2GB 1.2GB DISK TADPOLE $50.00EA. 1 T2-XCDROM T2 EXTERNAL CD ROM $75.00 1 T2R-MEM32 32MB SIMM $25.00 1 T2R-MEM64 S3 64MB MEM SIM $50.00 2 T3-RDD-5GB T3 5GB RDD HDD $250.00 2 TP3-16MB 16MB SIMM FOR3XP 75.00EA. 2 U-128MB 128MB FOR ULTRABOOK $740.00EA. 1 U20-14PB RDI ULTRABOOK 200MHZ $1550.00 1 RDI 5.GB DISK $250.00 1 UG32-S3 32MB SIMM FOR SPARCBOOK $25.00 1 XT-3GC256U16 S3000XT,3GB,128MB $4000.00 4 XT-5GC128U16 S3000XT,5GB,128MB $4000.00EA ALL ITEMS OF EQUIPMENT MUST BE SOLD!!! PLEASE CALL OR E-MAIL TO DISCUSS YOUR OFFER. THERE IS ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE ADDED AS IT BECOMES AVAILABLE. William J. Barone Vice President Rave Financial Services, Inc. 36940 metro Court Sterling Heights, MI 48312 800-500-7283 Fax 810-274-9165 www.ravefinancial.com wjb at ravefinancial.com From Chris_Powell at mitel.com Fri May 19 11:03:16 2000 From: Chris_Powell at mitel.com (Chris Powell) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 17:03:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: [SPARCbook] Buying a SPARCbook 3 Message-ID: Hi All, I have been offered a SPARCbook 3 of currently unknown model. I know it's 85MHz (so that makes it a 3XT?), not sure of screen size/resolution. Was the 85MHz SPARCbook 3 available with 9.4" 640x480 or 10.4" 800x600 screens? How usable is a 640x480 screen? Is the performance of the SB3 comparable to an equivalent MHz SPARCstation 5? Thanks. Chris Powell. From khansen at pluto.njcc.com Fri May 19 11:51:43 2000 From: khansen at pluto.njcc.com (Ken Hansen) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 12:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] Buying a SPARCbook 3 Message-ID: An 85 Mhz CPU would indicate a 3GX, IIRC, and the screen should be an 800x600 TFT screen of 10.4". 800x600 is pretty usable, 640x480 is rough - but workable - remember most windows managers (like CDE, etc.) use a significant amount of screen real estate at 640x480. As for performance, you will be suffering a poorer memory design, so that will reduce system performance relative to a similar SS/5, but I think the difference would be less than 10% - the real hit comes from the framebuffer (not upgradeable on sparcbook) and the disk (SS5 use ultra SCSI, Sparcbook uses an emulated SCSI-2 (FAST SCSI) on an IDE drive in many cases). Is an 85 Mhz SS5 clone usable - certainly, but it is far from the performance of a P166 laptop that can usually be gotten for about the same money, IMHO. Of course, the P166 laptop is not nearly as cool or distictive as the sparcbook. And the keyboard on a sparcbook 3 is *very* nice (I really like lexmark keyboards)... HTH, Ken n2vip at bellatlantic.net > Hi All, > > I have been offered a SPARCbook 3 of currently unknown model. I know it's > 85MHz (so that makes it a 3XT?), not sure of screen size/resolution. > > Was the 85MHz SPARCbook 3 available with 9.4" 640x480 or 10.4" 800x600 > screens? > > How usable is a 640x480 screen? Is the performance of the SB3 comparable > to an equivalent MHz SPARCstation 5? > > Thanks. > > > Chris Powell. > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > From lambert at ecst.csuchico.edu Fri May 19 13:28:59 2000 From: lambert at ecst.csuchico.edu (Tyson J. Lambert) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 11:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] Buying a SPARCbook 3 Message-ID: Isn't the 85 mhz a 3GS and not a 3GX? If I'm wrong on this someone please let me know. I have both a 3GS and a 3GX (85 and 110mhz respectivly) and would be interested to know if there is a difference, processor freq aside. thanks -Ty On Fri, 19 May 2000, Ken Hansen wrote: > An 85 Mhz CPU would indicate a 3GX, IIRC, and the screen should be an > 800x600 TFT screen of 10.4". > > 800x600 is pretty usable, 640x480 is rough - but workable - remember > most windows managers (like CDE, etc.) use a significant amount of > screen real estate at 640x480. > > As for performance, you will be suffering a poorer memory design, > so that will reduce system performance relative to a similar SS/5, > but I think the difference would be less than 10% - the real hit > comes from the framebuffer (not upgradeable on sparcbook) and the > disk (SS5 use ultra SCSI, Sparcbook uses an emulated SCSI-2 (FAST > SCSI) on an IDE drive in many cases). > > Is an 85 Mhz SS5 clone usable - certainly, but it is far from the > performance of a P166 laptop that can usually be gotten for about > the same money, IMHO. Of course, the P166 laptop is not nearly as > cool or distictive as the sparcbook. And the keyboard on a > sparcbook 3 is *very* nice (I really like lexmark keyboards)... > > HTH, > > Ken > n2vip at bellatlantic.net > > > > Hi All, > > > > I have been offered a SPARCbook 3 of currently unknown model. I know it's > > 85MHz (so that makes it a 3XT?), not sure of screen size/resolution. > > > > Was the 85MHz SPARCbook 3 available with 9.4" 640x480 or 10.4" 800x600 > > screens? > > > > How usable is a 640x480 screen? Is the performance of the SB3 comparable > > to an equivalent MHz SPARCstation 5? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Chris Powell. > > _______________________________________________ > > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > From bill at rave.com Fri May 19 13:41:22 2000 From: bill at rave.com (Bill Barone) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 14:41:22 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] New list and directions Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BFC1A0.4D399250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is the new list and directions to order. Please call with questions William J. Barone Vice President Rave Financial Services, Inc. 36940 metro Court Sterling Heights, MI 48312 800-500-7283 Fax 810-274-9165 www.ravefinancial.com wjb at ravefinancial.com ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BFC1A0.4D399250 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Sparcbooks for sale.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Sparcbooks for sale.txt" Hi all: I am a little new at doing this, but here is the list of equipment you = were asking about. QTY MODEL DESCRIPTION Asking Bid 1 3G1 3GB disk for Tadpole $100.00 1 PLX1024-810-64 110mhz RDI POWERLITE $250.00 5 S3TX SPARCBOOK 3 TX $850.00ea. 1 S3TX SPARCBOOK 3TX 128/2GB 1550.00 1 S3XT $750.00 =20 1 S3XP-810C32 SPARC3XP/810GBRDD/32MB $500.00 12 T2-MODEM56 FAX/MDM XJ4336 33.6 CELL$270.00? 1 S3GX SPARCBOOK 3GX NO MEM OR DISK $200 7 T2-RDD-1.2GB 1.2GB DISK TADPOLE $50.00EA. 1 T2-XCDROM T2 EXTERNAL CD ROM $75.00 1 T2R-MEM32 32MB SIMM $25.00 5 T2R-MEM64 S3 64MB MEM SIM $50.00 3 IDE 3.0GB RDD 3GB DISK $375.00 3 T3-RDD-5GB T3 5GB RDD HDD $250.00 2 TP3-16MB 16MB SIMM FOR3XP 75.00EA. 2 U-128MB 128MB FOR ULTRABOOK $740.00EA. 1 U20-14PB RDI ULTRABOOK 200MHZ $1550.00 1 RDI 5.GB DISK $250.00 1 UG32-S3 32MB SIMM FOR SPARCBOOK $25.00 1 XT-3GC256U16 S3000XT,3GB,256MB $4000.00 2 XT-3 S3000XT NO-MEM OR DISK $3000.00=09 4 XT-5GC128U16 S3000XT,5GB,128MB $4000.00EA=09 3 RDI170 RDI PWLITE/170/128/2X1GB$1500.00 1 90001 TADPOLE MINI KEYBOARD W/PS2 $78.00 2 T2-IBPCHRG T2 A CELL BATTERY CHARGER $125.00=09 New directions to purchase: Send ship to address, equipment description = and credit card number to fax 810-274-9165. I will process all orders = as they are received and I will up date this report as I have today. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BFC1A0.4D399250-- From pawwright at citnet.com Fri May 19 14:22:33 2000 From: pawwright at citnet.com (Paul Wright) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 15:22:33 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Buying a SPARCbook 3 Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01BFC1A6.0E2682C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought the 3GX was a 110mhz microsparc. Sorry if incorrect. Paul ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01BFC1A6.0E2682C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I thought the 3GX was a 110mhz = microsparc. =20 Sorry if incorrect.

Paul

------=_NextPart_000_0054_01BFC1A6.0E2682C0-- From bill at rave.com Fri May 19 15:09:38 2000 From: bill at rave.com (Bill Barone) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 16:09:38 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Sparcbooks for sale Message-ID: Hi All Again I am sorry for any inconveniences I have caused but I am trying to fill all orders as they come in. Please read the most current posting to get the instructions on how to buy. I will be out all next week and Sharon Tobin will take my calls at 800-500-7283 ext. 291. We will be posting additional equipment as it becomes available. Bill William J. Barone Vice President Rave Financial Services, Inc. 36940 metro Court Sterling Heights, MI 48312 800-500-7283 Fax 810-274-9165 www.ravefinancial.com wjb at ravefinancial.com From khansen at pluto.njcc.com Fri May 19 18:54:20 2000 From: khansen at pluto.njcc.com (Ken Hansen) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 19:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] Buying a SPARCbook 3 Message-ID: Yes, you are right - I shot off my answer too quick before I left my office this afternoon - 3 hours into a 6 hour car ride I realized my mistake... Thanks, Ken n2vip at bellatlantic.net > Isn't the 85 mhz a 3GS and not a 3GX? If I'm wrong on this someone please > let me know. I have both a 3GS and a 3GX (85 and 110mhz respectivly) and > would be interested to know if there is a difference, processor freq > aside. From dakeli at public.bta.net.cn Thu May 11 08:59:40 2000 From: dakeli at public.bta.net.cn (dakeli) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:59:40 +0800 Subject: [SPARCbook] New list and directions Message-ID: Dear William J. Barone We are interested in S3XT SPARCBOOK 3TX 128MB RAM/2GB HD at $1550. Could you please answer the following questions: 1. What accesaries are included? AC adapter, battery, mouse? 2. What OS? 3. Is it refurbished or looks very used? 4. Any other methods of payment besides credit card? Best regards, Zhong Jian -----Original Message----- : Bill Barone : sparcbook at sunhelp.org : Saturday, May 20, 2000 2:52 AM : [SPARCbook] New list and directions >Here is the new list and directions to order. Please call with questions > >William J. Barone >Vice President >Rave Financial Services, Inc. >36940 metro Court >Sterling Heights, MI 48312 >800-500-7283 Fax 810-274-9165 >www.ravefinancial.com >wjb at ravefinancial.com From dakeli at public.bta.net.cn Fri May 12 13:24:53 2000 From: dakeli at public.bta.net.cn (dakeli) Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 02:24:53 +0800 Subject: [SPARCbook] =?iso-8859-1?Q?=BB=D8=B8=B4:_=5BSPARCbook=5D_New_list_and_directions?= Message-ID: Dear Sir Some of your SPARCBook and ULTRABook in the list do not have memery and disk, while in the other hand, you have memery and disk. Are these memery and disk good to match the SPARC/ULTRABook? For example, can we buy the following to make a system: 1. S3GX SPARCBOOK 3GX NO MEM OR DISK $200 2. 3G1 3GB DISK $100 3. T2R-MEM64 S3 64MB MEM SIM x 2 $50 x 2 = $100 4. T2XCDROM T2 EXTERNAL CD ROM DRIVE $75 Could you please let me know the conditions of your list, all refurbished or just used? We intend to buy few sets of portable Stations. Please send me more detailed informtion. Best regards, Zhong Jian -----Original Message----- : Bill Barone : sparcbook at sunhelp.org : Saturday, May 20, 2000 2:52 AM : [SPARCbook] New list and directions >Here is the new list and directions to order. Please call with questions > >William J. Barone >Vice President >Rave Financial Services, Inc. >36940 metro Court >Sterling Heights, MI 48312 >800-500-7283 Fax 810-274-9165 >www.ravefinancial.com >wjb at ravefinancial.com From reiwb3 at bright.net Mon May 22 15:16:12 2000 From: reiwb3 at bright.net (Robert Wier) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:16:12 -0700 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook 3 Message-ID: Hello all: I,m buyind a sparcbook 3 from a fellow , and it hasnt arrived yet, That has forgotten his logon. I know there is away around this on the full size Sun Workstation. Is there a work around for the SPARCbook 3GS? Thanks Robert Wier reiwb3 at bright.net From canavan at cs.bonn.edu Mon May 22 20:29:07 2000 From: canavan at cs.bonn.edu (Rainer Canavan) Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 03:29:07 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [SPARCbook] Soalris 2.6: Sun's+ Patches or Tadpole CDs? Message-ID: Hi! does anyone know what differences there are between Solaris 2.6 from a Sun HW 5/98 CD plus the patches from Tadpole, and the Solaris 2.6 CD from Tadpole? Any additional tools? I'm currently using 2.5.1 - based off the installation that was on the Ross Pennington Sparcbooks. I'd guess that the SUN CDs only boot up in text mode, while the Tadpole ones probably have graphics from the start. Not that I really care about that ;-). I'm going to try 2.6 as soon as my new harddrive arrives, the IDE-SCSI bridge from adtx is finally here... Anyone with experience with that one: ftp://ftp.rdi.com/pub/pcmcia/Solaris/RDIwlan.tar.gz It's - as far as I know - the driver for PCMCIA Wavelan cards... I've seen 11Mbit ones beeing sold for <$220 new, so this could be fun. (What version of Solaris is this good for anyway?) Rainer From petro at bounty.org Mon May 22 23:56:56 2000 From: petro at bounty.org (Petro) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:56:56 -0700 Subject: [SPARCbook] Lost it's sync? Message-ID: I have a Sparcbook 3gs which sat for several months without being used. It was by all appearances fine when last used, but now when powered on, it looks like it has lost "vertical sync", and the image scrolls rapidly down the screen. Any clues or obvious fixes? It does this from power-on--when the sparcbook splash screen is up. -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ******************************************* "Campaigns to bear-proof all garbage containers in wild areas have been difficult because, as one biologist put it, `There is a considerable overlap between the intelligence levels of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.'" -- Richard Wabrek From ml at rz.uni-potsdam.de Mon May 22 14:36:40 2000 From: ml at rz.uni-potsdam.de (Michael Lorenz) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:36:40 +0200 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook 3 Message-ID: Greetings, > I,m buyind a sparcbook 3 from a fellow , and it hasnt arrived yet, That > has forgotten his logon. > I know there is away around this on the full size Sun Workstation. Is > there a work > around for the SPARCbook 3GS? Should be the same as on any SPARCstation - maybe the easiest way is to boot a shell from some Solaris CD, mount the root filesystem by hand and remove the password with some text editor. bye Michael From stobin at rave.com Tue May 23 09:49:03 2000 From: stobin at rave.com (Sharon Tobin) Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:49:03 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole Contact Message-ID: The new contact for people interested in purchasing Tadpole systems and peripherals is no longer Sharon Tobin; please call Jim Gibbs at 800-966-7283 ext 258. His e-mail address is jgibbs at rave.com. Thank you, Sharon Tobin Sales Manager Rave Financial Services Inc. From ebusto at hotmail.com Tue May 23 14:03:49 2000 From: ebusto at hotmail.com (Eric Busto) Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:03:49 PDT Subject: [SPARCbook] Lost it's sync? Message-ID: I had a similar problem not that long ago. Trying to fix, I took the unit apart and checked for a loose connection or something, no go. Eventually all I did was when it screwed up like that, beat it against something (the outerside casing, near the latch, so as to not damage the LCD). Personally, I beat it against my Sun monitor, which I have my sparcbook sitting in front of. Note that its just a gentle tap. Not sure why this fixes it, but its worked fine since except a few rare occasions every few months, in which I have to tap it again. >From: Petro >Reply-To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org >To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org >Subject: [SPARCbook] Lost it's sync? >Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:56:56 -0700 > >I have a Sparcbook 3gs which sat for several months without being >used. It was by all appearances fine when last used, but now when >powered on, it looks like it has lost "vertical sync", and the image >scrolls rapidly down the screen. > >Any clues or obvious fixes? It does this from power-on--when the >sparcbook splash screen is up. >-- >A quote from Petro's Archives: >******************************************* >"Campaigns to bear-proof all garbage containers in wild areas have been >difficult because, as one biologist put it, `There is a considerable >overlap >between the intelligence levels of the smartest bears and the dumbest >tourists.'" -- Richard Wabrek >_______________________________________________ >Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org >http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From stobin at rave.com Tue May 23 14:09:12 2000 From: stobin at rave.com (Sharon Tobin) Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:09:12 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole Memory Message-ID: Per Jim Gibbs, we are out of all 64mb memory for the tadpoles. Sharon Tobin Sales Manager Rave Financial Services, Inc. From reiwb3 at bright.net Fri May 26 12:21:46 2000 From: reiwb3 at bright.net (Robert Wier) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 13:21:46 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole drivers Message-ID: Hello All I just reinstalled Solaris 2.6 on a Sparcbook 3 I purchased recently. The installation went smooth. I downloaded the Tadpole drivers and update bundle. How do I install these drivers? I unpacked them and they are now folders in a directory. Thanks Robert Wier reiwb3 at bright.net From ml at rz.uni-potsdam.de Fri May 26 18:42:17 2000 From: ml at rz.uni-potsdam.de (Michael Lorenz) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 01:42:17 +0200 Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole drivers Message-ID: Greetings ! > I just reinstalled Solaris 2.6 on a Sparcbook 3 I purchased recently. > The installation went smooth. I downloaded the Tadpole drivers and > update bundle. How do I install these drivers? > I unpacked them and they are now folders in a directory. R.T.F.M.: pkgadd is the manpage to read, you will need to do something like pkgadd -d *. bye Michael From jeisch at boku.net Mon May 29 09:35:57 2000 From: jeisch at boku.net (Jonathan Eisch) Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 09:35:57 -0500 Subject: [SPARCbook] changing domains/IP-addresses on the fly Message-ID: Just looking through my archives, and I found this message. could you send me a copy of your scripts? -Jonathan Rainer Canavan wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2000 at 11:35:30AM -0500, Mark G. Thomas wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I'd like to change the IP-address and the domainname of my sparcbook > > > If you want the changed hostname and IP address to work immediately, > > you will need to not only change the files but also use `ifconfig` to change > > the interface IP and netmask, use `route` to add and/or remove routes for > > your new default route, and use `hostname` to change the hostame of the > > machine. > > I'm already doing this in my script. The problem is that obviously some > daemon(?) remembers the old settings and writes them to /etc/hosts, for > example, breaking those. > > > You will still run into problems with services like NFS and printing with > > daemons that are still running from boot-up, but could probably > > just use the existing rc scripts in /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d to stop > > and start certain services, after changing the hostname. > > ... sendmail was the most important one. My script already does this. > > > I frequently plug my SPARCBook into various client networks, and just > > ifconfig a new address, and add or remove routes as needed, but I'm not > > using NFS, printing, or other services that would have broken with these > > kinds of changes. I also don't typically bother changing the files, since > > I'm only wanting to use the new address and routes for the visit. > > actually it would be ok to have the settings 'only for the visit', but i do > need sendmail, dns and others working, which may require the files to be > changed. > > [...] > > > I'm very happy with 2.6 on the SPARCBook, just had to get used to not having > > the NCE gui, though frankly I was never that thrilled with NCE anyway. > > hmmm... I think I'm going to have to get myself some 2.6 media... > > > > > Mark > > Rainer > > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook From m_thompson at ids.net Mon May 29 10:28:18 2000 From: m_thompson at ids.net (Michael Thompson) Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 11:28:18 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCBook Ehternet Cable Message-ID: I just picked up a SPARCBook 3GX, 128MB, 110MHz. Can I use the Ethernet cable from a SS10 on the 3GX? Michael Thompson m_thompson at ids.net From Mark at misty.com Mon May 29 11:11:52 2000 From: Mark at misty.com (Mark G. Thomas) Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 12:11:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCBook Ehternet Cable Message-ID: Hi, > I just picked up a SPARCBook 3GX, 128MB, 110MHz. Congratulations. You are lucky to have one with 128 MB RAM in it. > Can I use the Ethernet cable from a SS10 on the 3GX? Yes. -Mark -- Mark G. Thomas (Mark at Misty.com -- http://www.misty.com/) From mrbshields at uswest.net Mon May 29 13:35:06 2000 From: mrbshields at uswest.net (Bill Shields) Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 13:35:06 -0500 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook Message-ID: I jsut aquired a SPARCBook 3GX. The problem is that the battery only lasts about 15 minutes after being fully charged. Is there a source for these batteries that will not cost an arm or a leg? Bill From jeisch at boku.net Mon May 29 13:39:13 2000 From: jeisch at boku.net (Jonathan Eisch) Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 13:39:13 -0500 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook Message-ID: do you have the power management patches installed? if you do, then try dischargeing it all the way. then recharge all the way. do that about five times, and it should start preforming better. -Jonathan Bill Shields wrote: > > I jsut aquired a SPARCBook 3GX. > > The problem is that the battery only lasts about 15 minutes after > being fully charged. > > Is there a source for these batteries that will not cost an arm or a > leg? > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook From canavan at cs.bonn.edu Mon May 29 11:23:03 2000 From: canavan at cs.bonn.edu (Rainer Canavan) Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 18:23:03 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [SPARCbook] changing domains/IP-addresses on the fly Message-ID: > Just looking through my archives, and I found this message. could you > send me a copy of your scripts? > > -Jonathan Well, yes, i could. But I'm currently in the process of upgrading the harddisk, and I only have that stuff on an ufsdump on a CD for now... It could take me one or two days to get all that up so I can send it to you. In case I don't send it after 2 days, remind me to do so ;-) Rainer From khansen at pluto.njcc.com Mon May 29 23:05:50 2000 From: khansen at pluto.njcc.com (Ken Hansen) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 00:05:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook Message-ID: I have an old IBM Thinkpad (486 class) that has similar battery problems - due mainly to age of the batteries... What that vendor suggested may work for you - the idea was to "restore" the batteries ability ot retain a charge. It went something like this: With adapter plugged in, run the unit for 5 minutes, then remove power adapter and remove battery for 30 seconds, then replace it. Then use the laptop on power adapter for 30 minutes, and remove adapter/battery for 30 seconds. Then use the laptop on power adapter for 2 hours, and remove battery and adapter for 30 seconds. And finally use the laptop for 8+ hours on power adapter, then remove power adapter and run down battery till *dead* (ignore all low power indicators). Then recharge the battery for 8+ hours (overnight) and battery should be better. You should run down the battery 2-3 times a month, then recharge overnight. The basic idea seemed to be that by slowly increasing the recharge time and removing the battery before charging you are "forcing" the battery to charge a little deeper into it's capacity each time. These notes may be completely useless for the battery in the SPARCBook, but this may help. *** *** Use at own risk, these steps have not been tested on *** a Tadpole SPARCBook. *** But, I have used them on the IBM Thinkpad 360PE and found the battery performance to improve. The vendor reports an aprox. 1 hour battery life for a new battery, older batteries would have less life IMHO. As for the rebuild, there are many companies that rebuild laptop/two-way radio and other battery packs, and the cost should be less than the $125 Tadpole (used to?) charge for a new battery... But the new battery is only expected to last for 1 hour. I have just started to tinker with my unit on battery power, and I found that 20+ minutes (close to 30) used up 25% of the poawer (per LCD display) - running Solaris 2.6 with all Tadpole/Sun patches and packages, as listed on Hugo's FAQ. (BTW, the patch package has a few "outdated" patches that you should not install, you should get the latest revs. of each patch)... Hope this helps, Ken n2vip at njcc.com > do you have the power management patches installed? > > if you do, then try dischargeing it all the way. then recharge all the > way. do that about five times, and it should start preforming better. > > -Jonathan > > Bill Shields wrote: > > > > I jsut aquired a SPARCBook 3GX. > > > > The problem is that the battery only lasts about 15 minutes after > > being fully charged. > > > > Is there a source for these batteries that will not cost an arm or a > > leg? > > > > Bill > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > From carton at Ivy.NET Tue May 30 00:23:13 2000 From: carton at Ivy.NET (Miles Nordin) Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:23:13 -0600 Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook battery shadiness Message-ID: On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 12:05:50AM -0400, Ken Hansen wrote: > The vendor reports an aprox. 1 hour battery life for a new > battery, ew.. That is pathetic. Many UPS's last longer than that in practice. Heck, even a Pentium laptop with a fan lasts almost that long. It might help to know if someone's bought the car adapter. Is the Tadpole's car adapter wired straight through, or is there a power supply in it? I've been thinking of buying a plug like the one on the power adapter and wiring it to clips for a 12V NiCd Dewalt cordless drill battery. -- Miles Nordin / v:+1 720 841-8308 fax:+1 530 579-8680 555 Bryant Street PMB 182 / Palo Alto, CA 94301-1700 / US From sunder at anon7.sunder.net Tue May 30 07:03:26 2000 From: sunder at anon7.sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:03:26 -0400 (edt) Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook Message-ID: If that doesn't do the trick, and you're inclined/skilled you might want to take a trip down to your local Radio Shack (or wherever you can) and get 10 NiNH rechargeable AA batteries, then crack open the Tadpole pack and replace the cells. There's supposed to be a temperature sensor in there to prevent overcharging, be careful not to damage this when you swap the batteries out. Likely it's just a thermoresistor. BTW: deep discharning and recharging does work quite well. I've had a battery pack that would issue first warnings at 75% of the battery level, and second warnings after 64%. About five charge/deep discharge cycles, I could bring it down to near 5% for the first warning! I would suggest that you first shut down your Tadpole, remove any PCMCIA cards, and the hard drive (to prevent cooking them,) and then turning the Tadpole on. Leave it at the open boot prompt, then let it discharge the battery until the Tadpole shuts off. Once off, apply the power supply, and let it charge all the way to 100%. Remove the power supply and repeat this whole thing about five times. The most I managed to get out of a Tadpole (with PCMCIA and hard drives, and Solaris running) is almost an hour. ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ On Mon, 29 May 2000, Jonathan Eisch wrote: > do you have the power management patches installed? > > if you do, then try dischargeing it all the way. then recharge all the > way. do that about five times, and it should start preforming better. > > -Jonathan > > Bill Shields wrote: > > > > I jsut aquired a SPARCBook 3GX. > > > > The problem is that the battery only lasts about 15 minutes after > > being fully charged. > > > > Is there a source for these batteries that will not cost an arm or a > > leg? > > > > Bill > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > From scott at scottyelich.com Tue May 30 07:45:02 2000 From: scott at scottyelich.com (Scott D. Yelich) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 06:45:02 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] powerless sparcbooks *sigh* Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello again everyone. It seems that lightning struck my apartment this past Monday and it blew out a bunch of lights, my mini hub.. and, yes, my only (mostly)working sparcbook's power system. At this point, I need to replace: (1) 1 DIM 3GS screen (2) 1 dead 3GS power supply (3) 1 dead 3GS internal power sub-system One broken-in-another-way 3GS/GX system would probably do the trick. Does anyone have such a system that they'd be willing to sell/trade/etc. ? Scott -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBOTO3zlpGPE+AF6qBAQGXHAP/clvagKp0Pt5DABngHkt5qSFfZrC63ksY Ozw3jeheZfKp+zC+Ul4Qcxsuujyuey5lj28pBV5C7SN3yuRXbZRZbgXfzdxulN85 3CCvJU2JuABW6zWT4nTdHLNp9/focxj3qdGFqmSmJ9ZDM0ClNBx8Z+46yvD8jpf/ zv3nR92q7M0= =o6rm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Mark at Misty.com Tue May 30 07:47:54 2000 From: Mark at Misty.com (Mark G. Thomas) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:47:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] SPARCbook battery shadiness Message-ID: Hi, .... > It might help to know if someone's bought the car adapter. Is the > Tadpole's car adapter wired straight through, or is there a power > supply in it? I bought the Tadpole car adapter. It's not wired straight through. There is a power supply in it to provide filtering and regulation. -Mark -- Mark G. Thomas (Mark at Misty.com -- http://www.misty.com/) From Oscar.G.Farah at ccmail.census.gov Tue May 30 09:49:39 2000 From: Oscar.G.Farah at ccmail.census.gov (Oscar.G.Farah at ccmail.census.gov) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 10:49:39 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Linux and SPARCBook Message-ID: BY THE WAY: DOES ANY ONE HAVE A SPARE AC ADAPTER (12 Vdc @ 4.6 a.) THAT HE/SHE WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF AT A LOW PRICE? - please respond directly to ofarah at netzero.net. I just acquired a SPARCbook 3XP with no hard disk or operating system. I have ordered a 1.2 GB hard disk for it which has no operating system on it. I have downloaded the SPARC version of Linux 6.2 and wrote it on a CD-ROM. I do have a SCSI CD-ROM drive so I should be able to acces the disk with no operating system (??). I do not know if the CD-ROM will boot (??). Has anyone installed the SPARC version on Linux on a SPARCBook? What problems/difficulties would I encounter if I try to install Linux? Oscar From Oscar.G.Farah at ccmail.census.gov Tue May 30 09:43:57 2000 From: Oscar.G.Farah at ccmail.census.gov (Oscar.G.Farah at ccmail.census.gov) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 10:43:57 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Linux and SPARCBook Message-ID: I just acquired a SPARCbook 3XP with no hard disk or operating system. I have ordered a 1.2 GB hard disk for it which has no operating system on it. I have downloaded the SPARC version of Linux 6.2 and wrote it on a CD-ROM. I do have a SCSI CD-ROM drive so I should be able to acces the disk with no operating system (??). I do not know if the CD-ROM will boot (??). Has anyone installed the SPARC version on Linux on a SPARCBook? What problems/difficulties would I encounter if I try to install Linux? Oscar From Ken.Hansen at ICTI-USA.com Tue May 30 10:57:50 2000 From: Ken.Hansen at ICTI-USA.com (Ken Hansen) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:57:50 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole drivers Message-ID: BTW, I was also building up my tadpole this weekend, and I found a few things of note for others to keep an eye out for: Three of the patches listed in Hugo's FAQ individually are more recent than the versions of them contained in the Tadpole Package Patch bundle - they are available from Tadpole directly through Hugo's links. Solaris 2.6 appears to be doing a great job of temp. control, the laptop appears to be running quite cool, I am testing it today by leaving it on all day and telneting in to it via my ADSL line (very cool!). My 3GX seems to run fine for hours on end (relatively idle) with just the back end propped up on the built-in feet in a cool, non- raised-floor home office (i.e. non-frigid)... Star Office appears to run fine, no real performance issues with 64 Meg RAM. The Solaris patch bundle (2.6_Recommended...) is over 40 Meg now, and two or three patches didn't install succesfully, but upon reviewing the available info onthe patches I wasn't too worried - should I have been? Issues remaining: The built-in battery usage display (on the LCD) shows about 70% when the unit starts beeping and flashing the orange light, how do I sync-up the Tadpole and Solaris power monitors? Suggested browser - Hotjava *blows* and I am having trouble getting a recent Netscape browser from their website, any pointers? I plan on using the browser onthe built-in display, so usabilty in 800x600 is important. Ideal partition scheme for a 6.4 Gig HD? I am used to Linux and the "one big filesystem" way of things... The laptop will be used for general web access/etc. No real heavy use. The internal 14.4K modem works great (very reasonable for a local terminal session), how do I configure a PCMCIA modem? A pointer to a doc would be great! Any concerns for plugging in a monitor? Anything special I need to watch out for to enable dual display? How is the sound support - haven't really gotten to that yet? Anyone tried Doom on this yet? Pointers to fun programs/uses for these machines would be appreciated, as I only got this laptop as a plaything, but I want to set up some cool stuff for dinking-around... Thanks in advance for any help you can give, Ken Ken Hansen ICTI Ken.Hansen at icti-usa.com -----Original Message----- From: Michael Lorenz [mailto:ml at rz.uni-potsdam.de] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:42 PM To: sparcbook at sunhelp.org Subject: Re: [SPARCbook] Tadpole drivers Greetings ! > I just reinstalled Solaris 2.6 on a Sparcbook 3 I purchased recently. > The installation went smooth. I downloaded the Tadpole drivers and > update bundle. How do I install these drivers? > I unpacked them and they are now folders in a directory. R.T.F.M.: pkgadd is the manpage to read, you will need to do something like pkgadd -d *. bye Michael _______________________________________________ Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook From sunder at anon7.sunder.net Tue May 30 11:22:03 2000 From: sunder at anon7.sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 12:22:03 -0400 (edt) Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole drivers Message-ID: On Tue, 30 May 2000, Ken Hansen wrote: > BTW, I was also building up my tadpole this weekend, and I > found a few things of note for others to keep an eye out for: > > Three of the patches listed in Hugo's FAQ individually > are more recent than the versions of them contained in > the Tadpole Package Patch bundle - they are available > from Tadpole directly through Hugo's links. To add to this: if anyone's using Solaris 7 (from Tadpole) on their machines. Be aware that the latest Solaris 7 Reccomended Patch cluster (i.e. downloaded off of sunsolve.sun.com) kills the PCMCIA driver. You'll get "unable to load module TS102" or such) once applied. One of the patches actually replaces the Solaris Kernel with one that expects a new function or structure, which the Tadpole PCMCIA driver does not have! Re: patches not installing: there are many reasons for patch not installing. Check the error codes. One reason they won't install is if you don't have the package that the patch patches installed - in which case this is perfectly reasonable. :) > The built-in battery usage display (on the LCD) shows about 70% > when the unit starts beeping and flashing the orange light, how > do I sync-up the Tadpole and Solaris power monitors? Strange. I'd suggest you recondition your battery as suggested elsewhere in this forum (i.e. deep discharge cycles) > Suggested browser - Hotjava *blows* and I am having trouble > getting a recent Netscape browser from their website, any > pointers? I plan on using the browser onthe built-in display, > so usabilty in 800x600 is important. Well, there is IE (puke) I wasn't able to get this piece of trash installed. Neither 4.0 nor 5. How did you download netscape? I got my 128 bit secured version by using their web forms. (I used another machine to download it, and then copied the gigantic file over the net interface.) > Ideal partition scheme for a 6.4 Gig HD? I am used to Linux > and the "one big filesystem" way of things... The laptop will > be used for general web access/etc. No real heavy use. Depends. I generally start with letting Solaris auto select, and then I modify. I've made my / very big - enough to accomodate the .CPR file. (256Mb should do very nicely.) I've let lots of space exist on /var mainly because pkgadd will fail with packages that like to relocate to /var/spool/pkgs first. I create a fairly big /opt partition (2Gb), create /opt/local and I make a soft link from /usr/local to /opt/local. This is to accomodate GNU (and other) packages that like to live in /usr/local. I generally add another 50-100mb to any other partitions (i.e. /usr/openwin, /usr) to allow for future patches, upgrades, etc. The remainder goes to /export/home. > The internal 14.4K modem works great (very reasonable for a > local terminal session), how do I configure a PCMCIA modem? > A pointer to a doc would be great! Just guessing, but admintool might work wonders once you figure out the device name. > How is the sound support - haven't really gotten to that yet? Weak and shitty. :) I'd suggest you use headphones. > Pointers to fun programs/uses for these machines would be > appreciated, as I only got this laptop as a plaything, but I want > to set up some cool stuff for dinking-around... See sunhelp.org for pointers to FAQ's, and sunfreeware.com for pre-built packages. (You first gzip -d them, if they're tars, you also untar them, then use pkgadd -d . from the same directory you've extracted them if they're tars, or pkgadd -d filename.pkg if they're an individual file.) ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ From n2vip at bellatlantic.net Wed May 31 11:51:17 2000 From: n2vip at bellatlantic.net (Ken Hansen) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:51:17 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Linux and SPARCBook Message-ID: Linux on SPARC is great, Linux on SPARCBook is not great ;^( The issues revolve around a lack of drivers for the unique power/temp regulators built in to the sparcbook. The Framebuffer also presents a challenge as well. The Sun CD-ROM FAQ should be able to help you find a bootable CD-ROM drive for your SPARCBook (any Sun bootable drive can be used, the FAQ tells you what to look for). If you look at Hugo's FAQ (linked to off of sunhelp.org) there are some other "free" OSs that support the sparcbook better than Linux. I decided to go with Solaris 2.6 on mine - it is a nice, stable environment, offers CDE and other nicities, and Tadpole has made lots of software tools available (command line software, not GUI like their NCE package). I may migrate to Solaris 7 at the end of the year (the estimated time frame Tadpole will free up their Solaris 7 tools for the SPARCBook), but for now Solaris 2.6 is running great... Sorry, Ken n2vip at bellatlantic.net ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:49 AM Subject: [SPARCbook] Linux and SPARCBook > > > BY THE WAY: DOES ANY ONE HAVE A SPARE AC ADAPTER (12 Vdc @ 4.6 a.) THAT HE/SHE > WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF AT A LOW PRICE? - please respond directly to > ofarah at netzero.net. > > I just acquired a SPARCbook 3XP with no hard disk or operating system. I have > ordered a 1.2 GB hard disk for it which has no operating system on it. I have > downloaded the SPARC version of Linux 6.2 and wrote it on a CD-ROM. I do have a > SCSI CD-ROM drive so I should be able to acces the disk with no operating system > (??). I do not know if the CD-ROM will boot (??). Has anyone installed the > SPARC version on Linux on a SPARCBook? What problems/difficulties would I > encounter if I try to install Linux? > > Oscar > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook From n2vip at bellatlantic.net Wed May 31 12:16:11 2000 From: n2vip at bellatlantic.net (Ken Hansen) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 13:16:11 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole drivers Message-ID: Hugo - this info might be good to add to the FAQ, do we need to put these inthe form of a question, or can the info just be added to the relevent parts of the FAQ? Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunder" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:22 PM Subject: RE: [SPARCbook] Tadpole drivers > > On Tue, 30 May 2000, Ken Hansen wrote: > > > BTW, I was also building up my tadpole this weekend, and I > > found a few things of note for others to keep an eye out for: > > > > Three of the patches listed in Hugo's FAQ individually > > are more recent than the versions of them contained in > > the Tadpole Package Patch bundle - they are available > > from Tadpole directly through Hugo's links. > > To add to this: if anyone's using Solaris 7 (from Tadpole) on their > machines. Be aware that the latest Solaris 7 Reccomended Patch cluster > (i.e. downloaded off of sunsolve.sun.com) kills the PCMCIA driver. You'll > get "unable to load module TS102" or such) once applied. > > One of the patches actually replaces the Solaris Kernel with one that > expects a new function or structure, which the Tadpole PCMCIA driver does > not have! > > Re: patches not installing: there are many reasons for patch not > installing. Check the error codes. One reason they won't install is if > you don't have the package that the patch patches installed - in which > case this is perfectly reasonable. :) > > > The built-in battery usage display (on the LCD) shows about 70% > > when the unit starts beeping and flashing the orange light, how > > do I sync-up the Tadpole and Solaris power monitors? > > Strange. I'd suggest you recondition your battery as suggested elsewhere > in this forum (i.e. deep discharge cycles) > > > Suggested browser - Hotjava *blows* and I am having trouble > > getting a recent Netscape browser from their website, any > > pointers? I plan on using the browser onthe built-in display, > > so usabilty in 800x600 is important. > > Well, there is IE (puke) I wasn't able to get this piece of trash > installed. Neither 4.0 nor 5. How did you download netscape? I got my > 128 bit secured version by using their web forms. (I used another machine > to download it, and then copied the gigantic file over the net interface.) > > > Ideal partition scheme for a 6.4 Gig HD? I am used to Linux > > and the "one big filesystem" way of things... The laptop will > > be used for general web access/etc. No real heavy use. > > Depends. I generally start with letting Solaris auto select, and then I > modify. I've made my / very big - enough to accomodate the .CPR > file. (256Mb should do very nicely.) I've let lots of space exist on /var > mainly because pkgadd will fail with packages that like to relocate to > /var/spool/pkgs first. > > I create a fairly big /opt partition (2Gb), create /opt/local and I make a > soft link from /usr/local to /opt/local. This is to accomodate GNU > (and other) packages that like to live in /usr/local. > > I generally add another 50-100mb to any other partitions (i.e. > /usr/openwin, /usr) to allow for future patches, upgrades, etc. The > remainder goes to /export/home. > > > The internal 14.4K modem works great (very reasonable for a > > local terminal session), how do I configure a PCMCIA modem? > > A pointer to a doc would be great! > > Just guessing, but admintool might work wonders once you figure out the > device name. > > > How is the sound support - haven't really gotten to that yet? > > Weak and shitty. :) I'd suggest you use headphones. > > > Pointers to fun programs/uses for these machines would be > > appreciated, as I only got this laptop as a plaything, but I want > > to set up some cool stuff for dinking-around... > > See sunhelp.org for pointers to FAQ's, and sunfreeware.com for pre-built > packages. (You first gzip -d them, if they're tars, you also untar them, > then use pkgadd -d . from the same directory you've extracted them if > they're tars, or pkgadd -d filename.pkg if they're an individual file.) > > ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- > + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ > \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ > <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ > /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ > + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. > --------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > From Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl Tue May 30 15:19:23 2000 From: Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl (Hugo.van.der.Kooij at caiw.nl) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 22:19:23 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [SPARCbook] Tadpole drivers Message-ID: On Wed, 31 May 2000, Ken Hansen wrote: > Hugo - this info might be good to add to the FAQ, do we need to put these > inthe form of a question, or can the info just be added to the relevent > parts of > the FAQ? As listed in the FAQ. Preferably in a single message to me so I don't put it aside in seperate corner of my harddiski as all those mailinglists do now. That way I can squeze it in at the next availe timeslot and will propably not escape my attention. Update occur usually within a half a week. Not all updates will make me mail a new faq. But the one on my homepage gets al updates overnight after I added or changed anything. Hugo. -- Hugo van der Kooij; Oranje Nassaustraat 16; 3155 VJ Maasland hvdkooij at caiw.nl http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/ -------------------------------------------------------------- Quoting this tagline is illegal! (http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html) From ml at rz.uni-potsdam.de Wed May 31 01:18:00 2000 From: ml at rz.uni-potsdam.de (Michael Lorenz) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 08:18:00 +0200 Subject: [SPARCbook] Heat and the SPARCBook - just a quick note... Message-ID: Greetings ! > Things to take away from this note: > > - May, 1998 relase of Solaris 2.6 does not seem significant, > mine was from 1997... Nobody said that other revisions than that from 5/98 won't work - 5/98 just seems to be the only one to contain basic SPARCbook support so one can use the graphical install. bye Michael From dkl at netcom.com Wed May 31 02:41:05 2000 From: dkl at netcom.com (Douglas K Landau) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] Heat and the SPARCBook - just a quick note... Message-ID: Actually the 3/98 release does too. > > Greetings ! > > > Things to take away from this note: > > > > - May, 1998 relase of Solaris 2.6 does not seem significant, > > mine was from 1997... > Nobody said that other revisions than that from 5/98 won't work - 5/98 > just seems to be the only one to contain basic SPARCbook support so one > can use the graphical install. > > bye > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Sparcbook mailing list - Sparcbook at sunhelp.org > http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/sparcbook > From sunder at anon7.sunder.net Wed May 31 06:29:58 2000 From: sunder at anon7.sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 07:29:58 -0400 (edt) Subject: [SPARCbook] Heat and the SPARCBook - just a quick note... Message-ID: On Wed, 31 May 2000, Ken Hansen wrote: > Hello all, > I just wanted to report that my 3GX, sitting on my home > network all day, accepting randome terminal sessions from me > over the internet (access using DDNS service from tzo.com > was a breeze, now I can access a system on my home network > that is connected via ASDL line!) *never* broke a sweat! That is a good thing. :) The key issue of heat buildup with mine is simply that I've replaced the IBM 2" 2.0gb disk with a Toshiba 6.0Gb disk, which runs much hotter, to the point of overheating itself. Once overheated, it no longer responds to disk requests - it's as if you unplug the drive. I've fixed this by getting a large 120VAC muffin fan pointing at the left side of the Tadpole about three inches away. It's not a question of the Tadpole patches with Solaris 2.6 versus those with 7. I see that the power management is working. That is, I notice the disk does spin down after a while, the screen goes black, etc. I've also gotten a stick on hologram thermometer, the kind used for aquariums and stuck it above the keyboard on the right side. After a few crashes, I've noticed that once the thermometer goes beyond 90 degrees F, the drive fails. So, I just keep an eye on the thermometer, and once it goes beyond 85F, I suspend the Tadpole. However, now, when it's idle, it does slow down the CPU and shut down the disk long enough for the external fan to cool it down. It's quite usable this way, and I don't mind the nice breeze. :) The version of Solaris doesn't make a difference in regards to heat. The key is to install the Tadpole packages/patches to either OS. If you don't, there is no power management, so the CPU runs at full force, and the disks never spin down. So installing stock 2.6 or 7 (except 3/98 and 5/98???) should be done in a cool environment if you're doing it from a slow CDROM, as stock Solaris doesn't have the power management features. > > I left it on for 12 hour+, and the bottom is quite cool - just a > reference point concerning heat build-up. My 3GX has Solaris > 2.6 (non 5/98 relase), all patches & packages listed in the FAQ > and I have had *no* problems at all! > > Things to take away from this note: > > - May, 1998 relase of Solaris 2.6 does not seem significant, > mine was from 1997... > > - Left on and fairly idle, there is no apprecible heat build up... > > - tzo.com Dynamic Domain Name Service is a great thing, > esp. if coupled with a Linksys Cable/DSL router and DSL service! > > OK, back to work... ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ From sunder at anon7.sunder.net Wed May 31 06:32:27 2000 From: sunder at anon7.sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 07:32:27 -0400 (edt) Subject: [SPARCbook] Power Saving Screen Saver and Suspending Sparcbook? Message-ID: I've added KDE to my sparcbook and like it a lot more than CDE. For one thing, it starts up a lot quicker than CDE when you don't have a network connection. (Seems CDE talks to itself over RPC???) For another, the KDE taskbar/tool bar uses a lot less space, and the desktop pager is nicer, etc. Anyway, the problem is that KDE doesn't have the Power Saving Screen Saver that is added by the Tadpole patches with Sol 7. Does anyone know where I can find the actual binaries for the CDE screen savers so I can move them to KDE? My second question is, how do I add a suspend feature to KDE? Is there some command line equivalent that I can tell Solaris to save it's memory to a .CPR file and shut down? (i.e. Suspend action from under CDE?) ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ From sunder at anon7.sunder.net Wed May 31 06:36:03 2000 From: sunder at anon7.sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 07:36:03 -0400 (edt) Subject: [SPARCbook] keyboard keystroke loss? Message-ID: Another thing I've noticed about both my Sparcbook 3's (GX and GS) is that they both lose keystrokes at times. This can be very annoying when you're trying to type in a password and it misses keystrokes, as no program (DTlogin, login, ssh) echoes back *'s when you type in a password.) I've resorted to turning keyclick on, but it's too loud and annoying... Does anyone else have this problem? Does anyone else NOT have this problem? It doesn't seem to be OS related either, as it seems to happen in the Open Boot Prom also. Both the 3GS and the 3GX have had broken pointers, I've fixed one of them as per the SparcBook hardware hacking SAQ ( http://www.sunder.net/sparcbook/index.html ) ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ From wedge at onlineimage.com Wed May 31 07:35:50 2000 From: wedge at onlineimage.com (Matthew Haas) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 08:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] keyboard keystroke loss? Message-ID: On Wed, 31 May 2000, Sunder wrote: > > Does anyone else have this problem? Does anyone else NOT have this > problem? > SPARCbook 3GX NetBSD 1.4.2 still on my original pointer I have never experienced this problem... I may see a few wrong letters appear on the screen, but that's usually because I hit the wrong key, being used to my sun keyboard. And I've not seen any such behavior in the OBP either. ----|||------------------------------------------------------------- - ||| Atari 8-bit! Star Wars * SPARCbook 3GX * SUMMER!! - - ||| 400/800/XL/XE Battlestar: Galactica * SPARC * Linux - - | | | | | 2600/5200/7800 StarRaiders * StarTrek * Galaga * SCSI - - || | || Lynx/Jaguar NetBSD 1.4.2 * Descent * Voltron * UNIX - -------------------------------------------------------------------- From canavan at cs.bonn.edu Wed May 31 04:26:50 2000 From: canavan at cs.bonn.edu (Rainer Canavan) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 11:26:50 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [SPARCbook] FAQ additions.... Message-ID: This, along with the info that there _is_ support for the framebuffer at least in the 3+5/98 editions (what about PCMCIA (IDE disks, Modem etc?)) should go into the faq (as opposed to the lack of fb suport in 2.5.1). That, and maybe some info about the differences between the sparcbook models (3XP:85MHz, 9.4" 640x480 display; Server: 110MHz, 640x480; 3GS: 85MHz, 10.4" 800x600; 3GX: 110MHz, 3TX 170MHz, 3000ST: 170MHz 12.1" 800x600, IDE drives, "handrest" for larger display, plastic(?) display enclosure instead of magnesium alloy; 3000XT: same as 3000ST, but 1024x768). Are there more? After all, I didn't find any official infos about the 3GS, but I do know that they exist, because I have one... > Actually the 3/98 release does too. > > > > > Greetings ! > > > > > Things to take away from this note: > > > > > > - May, 1998 relase of Solaris 2.6 does not seem significant, > > > mine was from 1997... > > Nobody said that other revisions than that from 5/98 won't work - 5/98 > > just seems to be the only one to contain basic SPARCbook support so one > > can use the graphical install. > > > > bye > > Michael From canavan at cs.bonn.edu Wed May 31 04:59:17 2000 From: canavan at cs.bonn.edu (Rainer Canavan) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 11:59:17 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [SPARCbook] changing domains/IP-addresses on the fly Message-ID: --655616-1681692777-959767157=:430 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi, here's the script I'm using. I've found that, with the broken Solaris 2.5.1 I'm currently using, I'd have to restart nceserver and nceradar (via /etc/rc2.d/S??nce stop/start). 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Message-ID: > Another thing I've noticed about both my Sparcbook 3's (GX and GS) is that > they both lose keystrokes at times. This can be very annoying when you're > trying to type in a password and it misses keystrokes, as no program > (DTlogin, login, ssh) echoes back *'s when you type in a password.) I've noticed an entirely different problem: extra keys. If you happen to press three keys at once - and this happens to me way too often on that small keyboard, I just don't get my fingers of the keys fast enough for certain combinations - I get soething with \033 in it, causing it to beep at the command prompt and leaving a ~ behind. That's really annoying once you have one of them in your root password. I've never lost any keystrokes. Rainer From canavan at cs.bonn.edu Wed May 31 05:12:17 2000 From: canavan at cs.bonn.edu (Rainer Canavan) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:12:17 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Sorry / [SPARCbook] changing domains/IP-addresses on the fly Message-ID: Grrr... this one was not to go the list. sorry, I've hit the reply button too fast without looking... Rainer From khansen at pluto.njcc.com Wed May 31 10:25:31 2000 From: khansen at pluto.njcc.com (Ken Hansen) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 11:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] changing domains/IP-addresses on the fly Message-ID: I'm curious - why not use the location functionality built-in to either the Solaris OS or Tadpole tools (assume you are running Solaris 2.6 on your laptop)? I have only just started to use my laptop, but I will need this form of networking flexability (or I may just go true DHCP for both home and school...). The commands are like lsloc, rmloc, cploc (get the picture?) but I don't have a copy of the FAQ handy - it lists most of the commands, if not all. Thanks, Ken n2vip at bellatlantic.net > > Just looking through my archives, and I found this message. could you > > send me a copy of your scripts? > > > > -Jonathan > > Well, yes, i could. But I'm currently in the process of upgrading the > harddisk, and I only have that stuff on an ufsdump on a CD for now... > It could take me one or two days to get all that up so I can send it > to you. In case I don't send it after 2 days, remind me to do so ;-) From nwise at spy.net Wed May 31 11:51:15 2000 From: nwise at spy.net (neal wise) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SPARCbook] Power Saving Screen Saver and Suspending Sparcbook? Message-ID: On Wed, 31 May 2000, Sunder wrote: > Anyway, the problem is that KDE doesn't have the Power Saving Screen Saver > that is added by the Tadpole patches with Sol 7. Does anyone know where > I can find the actual binaries for the CDE screen savers so I can move > them to KDE? I think it's called dtscreen. There are arguements to call the various savers. Too bad though... kbats.whaeteveritis has that cool old sun bats screen saver. Love the bats... dtscreen should be in /usr/dt/bin (i'm thinking CDE on AIX though...) > My second question is, how do I add a suspend feature to KDE? Is there > some command line equivalent that I can tell Solaris to save it's memory > to a .CPR file and shut down? (i.e. Suspend action from under CDE?) You might be able to find the config for CDE somewhere under either /usr/dt (distributed CDE stuff) or /etc/dt (localizations). I'm curious about the 6gb disk option. I've recently imported a 3GS into australia. I have a 1.2g with an OpenBSD snapshot on it which I'm using right now :) but I've found a source with 3 540m and 1 340m brand new (I gues that would actually be unused given the age :) disks. I was thinking about grabbing one of those sleds to use with one of the IDE<->SCSI thingies and a bigger, newer disk. I see one complaint about heat with the big disk and someone else saying they've had no probs. Wht model of disk is giving you no issues and what would I expect to pay for it and a converter? regards, neal ___________ d neal wise - nwise at spy.net SPY internetworking - will network for food http://www.spy.net From sunder at sunder.net Wed May 31 12:29:48 2000 From: sunder at sunder.net (Sunder) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 13:29:48 -0400 Subject: [SPARCbook] keyboard keystroke loss? Message-ID: Ken Hansen wrote: > > I've noticed that I need to pay attention to my keystrokes, but I think that > my problem may be due to the unusually deep travel (these days) these keys > have... Folks raised on mushy laptop keyboards are not used to pressing that > hard on a key... No, it is for sure hardware related, as I tend to be hard on keyboards. :) Also, if I hold down a key and notice that the stroke didn't show it will eventually show up. It's as if the keyboard scanner doesn't always scan. > There is the keyboard config tool - have you looked into that, it may > provide some relief... Which one? kbconfig? Or do you mean the CDE style manager? -- ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_ at _sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------